Billy, you are confusing the 2 shelters. Telephone Pioneers is north of Nuclear Lake, then East rock view, then the dover oak, the swamp river and board-walk, Train Station & Rt.22, Pawling. After the Water tower and fields you cross Hamersley Mountain, on the north east slope you will come to Wiley Shelter, 200 yards from Duell Hollow Road, 1 more mile and you are in the Nutmeg State.