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    Default List of my gear...Please help me minimize it...

    Here is my list of items that I plan on bringing with me on the AT this year. I have included everything down to the nighty-gritty of things. Including a few items that I still believe I need to purchase. I have not included food or water into any of my totals so far and my entire weight including all list below is 38lbs & 3ozs. If there is anyone out there that will be willing to help me cut some of the weight I have down I would be most gratious. Because I don't have that much money to spend alot of my items are a little heavier then I would like. Also on my clothes I can reduce an additonal .5oz due to cutting and removing all tags though that I only have a food scale it is difficult for me to have an accurate weight down to grams so my over all weight is probably 37lbs. Anyways thank you very much and I am looking forward to anyones critique on the following thank you....


    611oz = 38lbs 3ozs



    Missing 56.5oz

    1 Short-Sleeve Shirt 4.5oz
    Insulated Jacket 16oz
    3 Pairs Underware 3oz
    1 Pair Wool Socks 1.5oz
    1 Pair Sandals 3oz
    1 Pair Shoes 25oz
    Neosporin 1oz
    1 2.5gallon Collapsoble Bag 1.5oz
    Q-Tips 1oz


    554.5oz = 34lbs 10.5ozs



    Sleeping 57.5oz

    Army Closed-Cell Sleeping Pad 19oz
    Army 30+ Sleeping Bag 35oz
    Mylar Sleeping Bag 2.5oz
    REI Sleeping Bag Stuff Sack 1oz

    Trek Poles Outdoor (Walmart) 32oz


    Backpack Etc... 62oz

    Backpack Liner (Trash Bag) 1oz
    Osprey Atmos 65 Backpack 57oz
    Osprey Medium Backpack Cover 4oz



    AT Companion book, Data book,
    Journal/Wallet 18oz



    Misc on Top 25.5oz

    SD Baseball Hat 3.5oz
    Fleece Jacket (modifing to weigh less
    by removing pockets) 16oz
    Poncho 6oz


    Tent Bag 85oz

    REI Passanger 2 Tent
    REI Passanger 2 Rainfly
    10 Aluminum Stakes
    2 Aluminum Poles
    2 Tie Down Strings


    Clothes on Me 36.25oz

    1 Bandana 1oz
    Dri-Star Under Armour 4.5oz
    Columbia Titanium Long-Sleeve Shirt 10.5oz
    Columbia Omni-Wick Convertible Pants 12.5oz
    1 Hankerchief .5oz
    Insect Shield OR Gaiters 4.5oz
    Dri-Star Nylon/Polyester Socks 1.25oz
    Polyester Beanie .5oz
    Sunglasses 1oz



    Clothes Bag (Water Bag Green 1oz) 73.5oz

    Champion Under Armour 6.5oz
    Zero-X-Posure Gloves 3oz
    Western Safety Gloves 2.5oz
    Dri-Star 2Pair Nylon/Polyester Socks 2.25oz
    Dri-Star Wind Jacket 10.5oz
    Dri-Star Wind Pants 10oz
    Marlin Trading CO. Swim Shorts 7oz
    Dri-Star Thermal Top 5oz
    Dri-Star Thermal Bottoms 5.5oz
    Dri-Star Under Armour Shirt 4.5oz
    Microfiber Short-Sleeve Buttonup Shirt 9.25oz
    Polar-Tec Thermal Top 5.5oz
    1 Bandana 1oz



    Food Bag (Army Green 1oz) 1oz+?

    medical/repair bag (red .5oz) 34oz


    Medication 7oz
    Elastic Wrap, Rolled Gauze, 4 Moleskin
    20 Bandaids in Ziplock Bag 3.25oz
    Nicotine Patches 4oz
    Hand Sanitizer 3oz
    Repair Kit - (2 Gorilla Super Glue, Seam Sealer,
    Saftey Pins, 3 Ferrules, 2 Nylon Mesh Patch,
    Floor Patch, Ripstop Nylon Patch, Shock Cord,
    2 Steel Needles, 2 Thread Spools
    50ft Fishing Line) 4oz
    50ft Duct Tape 1oz
    Mylar Sheet 1.5oz
    6 Tums 3oz
    Campho-Phenique 1oz
    Visine .75oz
    Swiss Knife (knife, File,
    Scissors, Tweezers, Toothpick)
    Fishing line, Whistle, Compass
    2 Ear Plugs 1oz
    Cuticle Cutter 1.5oz
    Inhaler 1.5oz
    Pain Pills 1oz





    Stove Bag (Blue 1oz) 26oz

    Steel Pot W/Lid 8oz
    Sterno Can 8oz
    20 Potable Aqua Tabs (Chlorine Dioxide) .25oz
    Stove, Pot Stand, Windscreen 2oz
    Spoon 1oz
    Potable Aqua (Iodine + PA) 2oz
    Can Opener .25oz
    Matches .25oz
    Lighter .25oz
    Magneisium and Stricker 3oz


    Stove Bag 2 (Grey Blue .5oz) 20.5oz


    2 Bottles Fuel 8.5oz
    35ft Parachute Cord 2.5oz
    55ft Parachute Cord 4oz
    Steel Cup 5oz


    Bathroom/Hygenie (Blue Waterbag 1oz) 42.75oz?

    Trowel W/Bag 4.5oz
    Camp Towel 3oz
    Shampoo&Conditioner 3oz?
    Wipes 9oz
    Floss .5oz?
    Deoderant 2.5oz
    Toilet Paper 1oz?
    Dr. Bonner's Soap 6oz?
    Brush 3oz?
    Toothpaste 2oz?
    Toothbrush 2oz?
    Hand Sanitizer 3oz
    2 Mini Camp Towels 1oz
    Chapstick .5oz
    Nail Clippers, Tweezers, File .75oz


    Misc 35.5oz

    Headlamp 1oz
    Mini Flashlight 1oz
    MP3 Charger 3oz
    Mylar Sheet 1.5oz

    Cough Drops 3oz
    Knife 4.5oz
    Insect Repellent 1oz
    Hand Sanitizer 3oz

    Hackie-Sack 1.5oz
    Paper Work, ID, BC, SSC 1.5oz

    Braclets, Pins, Earrings 2.5oz
    Pencils, Eraser, Sharpener,
    Case, Ruler 7oz


    2 Caribiners (Orange) 1.5oz
    2 Caribiners (Black) 1oz
    MP3 Player W/Headphones 2.5oz



    Bags 6oz


    2 Large Trash Bags 1oz
    6 Freezer Bags 2.5oz
    6 Sandwich Bags 1.5oz
    1 Orange Water Bag 1oz

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    lots pretty comprehensive.. all those little things add weight i guess!

    I would cut down on some of your clothes, you probably dont need a fleece, long sleeve tee and a insulated jacket- just take the lightest and go. In the cold i wear long johns, a down sweater and my rainjacket and have been quite hot in cold weather. Also, you really only need 2 pr of good poly underwear

    Lastly, think hard about what you really need in the first aid kit- this has to do with how prone you are to cramps in the tummy muscles etc and how much you stink. I only take a bottle of hand sani (multiuse) half a tube of triple antibiotic, toothpaste and Dr. B's. This covers me for any little accidents and personal hygiene. If i ever get more sick i know that gas stations will sell me a little pepto or whatever. I don't use deoderant: it attracts animals and if you don't use it for a while, your body will adjust and stink less.

    good luck with the planning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribbles82 View Post
    Here is my list of items that I plan on bringing with me on the AT this year. I have included everything down to the nighty-gritty of things. Including a few items that I still believe I need to purchase. I have not included food or water into any of my totals so far and my entire weight including all list below is 38lbs & 3ozs. If there is anyone out there that will be willing to help me cut some of the weight I have down I would be most gratious. Because I don't have that much money to spend alot of my items are a little heavier then I would like. Also on my clothes I can reduce an additonal .5oz due to cutting and removing all tags though that I only have a food scale it is difficult for me to have an accurate weight down to grams so my over all weight is probably 37lbs. Anyways thank you very much and I am looking forward to anyones critique on the following thank you....


    611oz = 38lbs 3ozs



    Missing 56.5oz

    1 Short-Sleeve Shirt 4.5oz
    Insulated Jacket 16oz - is this the fleece jacket listed below, if not choose one
    3 Pairs Underware 3oz - take 2 at most
    1 Pair Wool Socks 1.5oz - you need 2 pair of hiking socks minimum, many prefer 3, one on, one drying, one in reserve/for sleeping
    1 Pair Sandals 3oz - debateable, could be left behind
    1 Pair Shoes 25oz
    Neosporin 1oz
    1 2.5gallon Collapsoble Bag 1.5oz - not needed
    Q-Tips 1oz


    554.5oz = 34lbs 10.5ozs



    Sleeping 57.5oz

    Army Closed-Cell Sleeping Pad 19oz
    Army 30+ Sleeping Bag 35oz
    Mylar Sleeping Bag 2.5oz - not needed
    REI Sleeping Bag Stuff Sack 1oz

    Trek Poles Outdoor (Walmart) 32oz


    Backpack Etc... 62oz

    Backpack Liner (Trash Bag) 1oz
    Osprey Atmos 65 Backpack 57oz
    Osprey Medium Backpack Cover 4oz - not needed with pack liner

    AT Companion book, Data book, Journal/Wallet 18oz -
    don't need Companion AND Data book - choose one, lose wallet, you need ID/DL, med ins card, two credit or debit cards in ziplock



    Misc on Top 25.5oz

    SD Baseball Hat 3.5oz
    Fleece Jacket (modifing to weigh less
    by removing pockets) 16oz - is this the fleece jacket listed above? if not choose one

    Poncho 6oz - consider replacing wind jacket with rain shell for dual purpose and lose wind jacket and poncho


    Tent Bag 85oz - 5.5 lbs - heavy for a solo hiker, have you considered a tarp?

    REI Passanger 2 Tent
    REI Passanger 2 Rainfly
    10 Aluminum Stakes - why so many stakes - freestanding tent needs 6 at most
    2 Aluminum Poles
    2 Tie Down Strings


    Clothes on Me 36.25oz

    1 Bandana 1oz
    Dri-Star Under Armour 4.5oz
    Columbia Titanium Long-Sleeve Shirt 10.5oz
    Columbia Omni-Wick Convertible Pants 12.5oz
    1 Hankerchief .5oz
    Insect Shield OR Gaiters 4.5oz
    Dri-Star Nylon/Polyester Socks 1.25oz
    Polyester Beanie .5oz
    Sunglasses 1oz



    Clothes Bag (Water Bag Green 1oz) 73.5oz

    Champion Under Armour 6.5oz - ? what is this, more underwear? if so lose it
    Zero-X-Posure Gloves 3oz
    Western Safety Gloves 2.5oz - choose 1 pr gloves
    Dri-Star 2Pair Nylon/Polyester Socks 2.25oz - lots of different socks scattered about. you need 2 to 3 pair to hike in, no more
    Dri-Star Wind Jacket 10.5oz
    Dri-Star Wind Pants 10oz - see comments on poncho etc
    Marlin Trading CO. Swim Shorts 7oz - you won't swim that often. skinnydip or swim in underwear
    Dri-Star Thermal Top 5oz
    Dri-Star Thermal Bottoms 5.5oz
    Dri-Star Under Armour Shirt 4.5oz - aren't you wearing one of these already? lose it
    Microfiber Short-Sleeve Buttonup Shirt 9.25oz
    - you are already wearing a shirt - roll up the sleeves
    Polar-Tec Thermal Top 5.5oz - you have a thermal top already and a jacket - lose this
    1 Bandana 1oz



    Food Bag (Army Green 1oz) 1oz+?

    medical/repair bag (red .5oz) 34oz - way too heavy

    Medication 7oz
    Elastic Wrap, Rolled Gauze, 4 Moleskin - not needed
    20 Bandaids in Ziplock Bag 3.25oz -take 2 bandaids
    Nicotine Patches 4oz
    Hand Sanitizer 3oz - get a smaller 1 -2 oz bottle
    Repair Kit - (2 Gorilla Super Glue, Seam Sealer,
    Saftey Pins, 3 Ferrules, 2 Nylon Mesh Patch,
    Floor Patch, Ripstop Nylon Patch, Shock Cord,
    2 Steel Needles, 2 Thread Spools
    50ft Fishing Line) 4oz - get this down to 2 oz
    50ft Duct Tape 1oz - 6 ft is plenty
    Mylar Sheet 1.5oz - what for?
    6 Tums 3oz - 6 tums dont weigh 3 oz
    Campho-Phenique 1oz
    Visine .75oz
    Swiss Knife (knife, File,
    Scissors, Tweezers, Toothpick)
    Fishing line, Whistle, Compass - fish line not needed
    2 Ear Plugs 1oz
    Cuticle Cutter 1.5oz
    Inhaler 1.5oz
    Pain Pills 1oz





    Stove Bag (Blue 1oz) 26oz

    Steel Pot W/Lid 8oz - replace with aluminum pot 4 oz
    Sterno Can 8oz - sterno sucks and won't boil water - get an alcohol stove
    20 Potable Aqua Tabs (Chlorine Dioxide) .25oz - which one are you using?
    Stove, Pot Stand, Windscreen 2oz
    Spoon 1oz
    Potable Aqua (Iodine + PA) 2oz - which one are you using?
    Can Opener .25oz
    Matches .25oz
    Lighter .25oz
    Magneisium and Stricker 3oz - not needed, survival mode not needed on AT
    Stove Bag 2 (Grey Blue .5oz) 20.5oz


    2 Bottles Fuel 8.5oz -see above sterno comment
    35ft Parachute Cord 2.5oz
    55ft Parachute Cord 4oz - you don't need both
    Steel Cup 5oz


    Bathroom/Hygenie (Blue Waterbag 1oz) 42.75oz?

    Trowel W/Bag 4.5oz - use stick or hiking pole, not needed
    Camp Towel 3oz
    Shampoo&Conditioner 3oz? - where would you use this on trail? get 1 oz sample size in town. if at motel or better hostel they'll have complimentary
    Wipes 9oz - dehydrate a few wipes - carry no more than you need for a week
    Floss .5oz?
    Deoderant 2.5oz - lose it, hikers stink and no amouyt of deoderant will make it any better
    Toilet Paper 1oz?
    Dr. Bonner's Soap 6oz? - 1 oz if really even needed
    Brush 3oz?
    Toothpaste 2oz? - get 1 oz size
    Toothbrush 2oz?
    Hand Sanitizer 3oz - you listed this above before, no?
    2 Mini Camp Towels 1oz - maybe take 1, better zero
    Chapstick .5oz
    Nail Clippers, Tweezers, File .75oz


    Misc 35.5oz

    Headlamp 1oz
    Mini Flashlight 1oz
    MP3 Charger 3oz
    Mylar Sheet 1.5oz - another duplicate

    Cough Drops 3oz - are these really needed?
    Knife 4.5oz
    Insect Repellent 1oz
    Hand Sanitizer 3oz - more hand sanitizer . . . ? ? ?

    Hackie-Sack 1.5oz - use tree bark, fungus, dung balls, etc
    Paper Work, ID, BC, SSC 1.5oz - no need for ss card

    Braclets, Pins, Earrings 2.5oz
    Pencils, Eraser, Sharpener,
    Case, Ruler 7oz - too heavy get it down to half that


    2 Caribiners (Orange) 1.5oz
    2 Caribiners (Black) 1oz - for what?
    MP3 Player W/Headphones 2.5oz



    Bags 6oz


    2 Large Trash Bags 1oz - you need only 1 for a pack liner
    6 Freezer Bags 2.5oz - how many do you really need
    6 Sandwich Bags 1.5oz
    - how many do you really need

    Orange water bag - is this needed, and where are your water bottles or platypus?
    Read above red and blue comments. You have a lot of redunant items and extras, and some choices that likely won't work, like sterno. Clean up the list, recalculate. and then repost, but leave seperate what you will wear while hiking in warm dry weather, such as boots, one pair socks, shorts, tee shirt, cap, bandana, etc.

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    4EB's post is spot-on.

    It sounds to me like you need to do a shake-down hike for a few days - all the stuff you are bringing that you think you can't do without will drag you down - you just don't need all this STUFF.

    Just for fun, compare your list to my standard spring,summer, fall pack list:

    Osprey Atmos 50 (liter) backpack / pack cover
    35 - degree sleeping bag and stuff sack
    MSR Hubba Carbon Reflex Tent
    Tyvek house wrap ground sheet cut to fit tent
    3/4 thermorest (ladies - I'm a 5'8 man)
    MSR Pocket Rocket / Propane Fuel Canister
    windscreen - custom made with roof flashing to use with stove
    1 @ 1- liter MSR titanium cookpot, strainer lid (doubles as coffee cup)
    Aqua Mira for Water Purification
    little bag with stuff including
    lighter, tiny pocketknife, headlamp, batteries, spoon,
    toothbrush cut in 1/2, paste, coaches tape, tiny first aid stuff, blister pads, etc.
    1 oz bottle of Dr. Brommers soap
    small cell phone (turned off) and charger cord
    small Change Clothes waterproof stuff sack as follows:
    silk boxers for sleeping
    long underwear
    light wool icebreaker sweater
    stocking cap
    spare silky t-shirt
    spare smart-wool socks
    2 granite gear stuff sacks for above items
    big zip lock with
    current map, data book page photocopies, small journal book, pencil and sharpie
    Food Bag - about 7 lbs for 4-5 days.
    18' - 2 mil cord for food hang (keep in food bag)
    1 1/2 - 2 liters water (depending on availability) Gatorade bottles
    tiny flask of liquor - 8oz - (optional)
    1 garbage bag - put legs in for quick warm -up
    rain jacket - arc-teryx packlight, marmot rain pants
    crocs and pack towel
    very small digital camera on hip belt


    about 29 pounds with food and water
    base weight - about 18.5 - 19.5
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    Papa D -- I like your list, but can't figure out what the "W.L." is that you use with your windscreen. With a tiny flask of liquor in your pack is it necessary to also bring "white lightening"? And, I'm surprised to learn that MSR now sells titanium "cockpits". Hikers need to understand that here in Kentucky (and along most if not all of the AT) it is illengal to operate cock pits. Using cook pots occcasionaly is probably still permissible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siestita View Post
    Papa D -- I like your list, but can't figure out what the "W.L." is that you use with your windscreen. With a tiny flask of liquor in your pack is it necessary to also bring "white lightening"? And, I'm surprised to learn that MSR now sells titanium "cockpits". Hikers need to understand that here in Kentucky (and along most if not all of the AT) it is illengal to operate cock pits. Using cook pots occcasionaly is probably still permissible.
    HA HA - I fixed it ... old list, punched up - I think WL might have been whisper light on an older list. Thx.

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    thank you for all the input I will definitly look into your suggestions while you have alot of good ones that i will be considering... Hopefully I'll be able to get my pack down to 25lbs with all your tips. again thank you...
    also as far as the redunatcies of extra clothes is simply a habit i guess .... i backpacked/hitch hiked last summer from northern cali went south to san diego then across arizona, new mexico, texas, oaklahoma, arkansas, then to tennessee and my bag weighed almost 90lbs.... But then again i was simply moving lol... anyways again thanks for all the input and i'd love to see your list one of these days with weights etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribbles82 View Post
    @ 4eyedbuzzard


    thank you for all the input I will definitly look into your suggestions while you have alot of good ones that i will be considering... Hopefully I'll be able to get my pack down to 25lbs with all your tips. again thank you...
    also as far as the redunatcies of extra clothes is simply a habit i guess .... i backpacked/hitch hiked last summer from northern cali went south to san diego then across arizona, new mexico, texas, oaklahoma, arkansas, then to tennessee and my bag weighed almost 90lbs.... But then again i was simply moving lol... anyways again thanks for all the input and i'd love to see your list one of these days with weights etc....
    Read all the replies in your other thread as well http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/show...lease-critique And to take all of our comments collectively - you just have too much stuff and some of it is quite heavy. Other items could be changed: the sleeping pad is heavy at 19 oz if that weight is accurate, a <$10 blue one at W-M is perhaps 11 or 12 oz. the tent is really heavy for a solo hiker. consider a tarp or tarptent at under 2 lbs. Minimize. Other than socks, you don't need more than one of anything

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    I haven't posted a gear list in a long while but maybe this week I will just for entertainment purposes and to get feedback and tips and keep myself honest. I'm not thru-hiking, so my list leaves off a few things that a thru hiker would want like a phone charger, a spare set of batteries, more trail guide pages, more daily type meds if needed, but my base weight without food and water rarely exceeds 18 lbs. unless out on a combination hike and fishing trip when I take a few more camping and cooking luxuries and carry perhaps as much as 25 base. Final weight depends on if I'm hammocking (new to me) or just tarping or tenting, what stove/cookgear I take, what clothing I choose, what conditions I expect (I pretty much only hike in VT , NH and ME and conditions can be "interesting" here). That's for hikes up to a week or so. But there isn't a lot of difference in gear as a thru hike is mostly a string of 3 to 6 day sections with the added logisitic of resupply/town stops.

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    What is your start date?


    Here is your cut list (dont bring the following or read the attached comment as to how to switch it out for a lighter option)

    Insulated Jacket 16oz (Is this a rain jacket too if not cut it and replace with some down vest (6 oz)
    3 Pairs Underware 3oz (Drop em and go with body glide if you chafe)
    Q-Tips 1oz
    Army Closed-Cell Sleeping Pad 19oz (Heaviest closed foam I have ever even imagined, Heavy as a prolite air pad. Cut and get a 20 dollar ridgerest solite only 8 oz for a regular)
    Mylar Sleeping Bag 2.5oz (What is this a liner? keep or not depending on your start date, your bag is warm so I hope your not starting to early)
    Trek Poles Outdoor (Walmart) 32oz (WAY too heavy most poles are around a pound to 20 oz.)AT Companion book, Data book,
    Journal/Wallet 18oz ( cut in sections if you are doing mail drops and send it to yourself along the way. Also it is necessary to have 2 guides)
    SD Baseball Hat 3.5oz (Heavy mine weighs 2.5 oz)
    Fleece Jacket (modifing to weigh less
    by removing pockets) 16oz (Heavy refer to down vest maybe just get a down jacket your preference but even my fleece pullover only weighs 11 oz with no mods)
    REI Passanger 2 Tent (Are there 2 people if not get a solo tent most 2 man are 4-5 lbs opposed to 2-3 lbs average solo)
    10 Aluminum Stakes (You could make half this many work as well)
    Dri-Star Under Armour 4.5oz (Are you saying your wearing 2 shirts on you at all times?)
    Columbia Titanium Long-Sleeve Shirt 10.5oz (Heavy mine are around 8 oz and size large)
    Columbia Omni-Wick Convertible Pants 12.5oz (Lose em if them have cargo pockets (extra weight) thats what your pack is for)
    Insect Shield OR Gaiters 4.5oz (hope not multi purpose haha I know I read that wrong)
    Sunglasses 1oz

    Clothes Bag (Water Bag Green 1oz) 73.5oz Ah here is the source of your problem

    Champion Under Armour 6.5oz (This is the 4th shirt I saw so cut it at 3 total some bring 1-2)(bring winter stuff but no more than 3 non winter shirts)
    Zero-X-Posure Gloves 3oz and Western Safety Gloves 2.5oz Pick a pair and lose the other
    Dri-Star 2Pair Nylon/Polyester Socks 2.25oz (Go with 3 pair total)
    Dri-Star Wind Jacket 10.5oz (Lose do water proof shell or poncho not both poncho and wind jacket and insulated jack your redundants are killing you)
    Dri-Star Wind Pants 10oz (Lose em fast)
    Marlin Trading CO. Swim Shorts 7oz (Unsure of use, try running shorts only 3 oz)
    Dri-Star Under Armour Shirt 4.5oz
    Microfiber Short-Sleeve Buttonup Shirt 9.25oz (More shirts...and now with buttons)
    1 Bandana 1oz (already got 1 and 2 hats and a hankerchief (small bandanna))


    medical/repair bag (red .5oz) 34oz (This is excessive, is you have special medications and such is may be necessary otherwise you want this around 10 oz or less emphasis on less. Its what you need on you at a given time it can be replaced along the way like food)

    20 Bandaids in Ziplock Bag 3.25oz (what you need at a given time)
    2 Gorilla Super Glue(2 glues go with one if any you can get nylon repair patches that work great and weigh less than an ounce for a ten pack)
    Shock Cord (For what)
    2 Thread Spools (you will not finish a whole spool)
    50ft Fishing Line) 4oz (you got thread)
    50ft Duct Tape 1oz (Not a fan again nylon self adhesive patches, duct tape mabye as a bandaid substitute)
    Mylar Sheet 1.5oz (For what, you are over thinking this, what you need on you at a given time)
    6 Tums 3oz (Baking powder to replace this and toothpaste works for both)
    Visine .75oz
    Fishing line, Compass (stay on the trail)
    20 Potable Aqua Tabs (Chlorine Dioxide) .25oz (The AQ drops last longer and no waitin to dissolve in cold spring water)
    Can Opener .25oz (Should be on your army knife)
    Matches .25oz (unreliable get a good reuseable lighter)
    Magneisium and Stricker 3oz (3 sources are 1 too many)

    2 Bottles Fuel 8.5oz (Resupply every 2 days make use of this, also whats with the sterno if you have a real stove)
    35ft Parachute Cord 2.5oz
    55ft Parachute Cord 4oz (look into spectra cord weighs .9 oz for 50 ft)
    Steel Cup 5oz (if you just boiling water then you can use your pot as a cup)
    Bathroom/Hygenie (Blue Waterbag 1oz) 42.75oz? (How is this possible?, im glas you are questioning it too)
    Trowel W/Bag 4.5oz (You got hands, trekking poles, rocks, sticks, boots, make due its only a 6 in hole)
    Camp Towel 3oz (No you have bandanna, but at least cut this in half and ditch half)
    Floss .5oz? (Sure at .5 oz its a steal and you can sew with it and ditch that fishing line)
    Deoderant 2.5oz (haha, right)
    Toilet Paper 1oz? ( what are the wipes for then)
    Hand Sanitizer 3oz (more or this is the same as above in medic kit)
    2 Mini Camp Towels 1oz No, bad hiker
    Nail Clippers, File .75oz (Pick 1 nail clipper cuticle cutter or file, pssst choose the nail clipper with a file on the handle)
    Mini Flashlight 1oz (one light source)
    Mylar Sheet 1.5oz (more mylar sheets?)

    Cough Drops 3oz If you get sick get meds if not dont be a walking pharma
    Knife 4.5oz (you have a swiss army)
    Hand Sanitizer 3oz (more??)
    Paper Work, ID, BC, SSC 1.5oz (Do not bring your social security card, it gets wet and no one will ever ask you for it ever period the end. Unless your gonna apply for a passport on the way dont bring it, Is BC birth certificate if so same applies here) Bring drivers license, credit card, debit card, cash

    Braclets, Pins, Earrings 2.5oz (id dump this too but I could see why you would want it)
    Pencils, Eraser, Sharpener, (Bring a pen)
    Case, Ruler 7oz (Dont know what this is for)
    2 Caribiners (Orange) 1.5oz
    2 Large Trash Bags 1oz (No in addition to what alread lists I hope)
    6 Freezer Bags 2.5oz and 6 Sandwich Bags 1.5oz (these better contain food if not dump them)(If they do make sure to reuse)

    Overall I feel like in an effort to be prepared you are way over-prepared. Most of this is now cut and with it most of your weight. Can you really fit all this in an oprey 65 before I cut it? If so impressive. I think you will be ok once you have taken a look back and reconsidered the use of each item. If not you can easily do this gear cut down at the neels gap outfitter, haha jk. Good luck and I hope to see you on the trail.

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    Wow I am exhaused just thinking about that load.
    With food and water 52#.

    I guess it depends on if you want all that stuff when you stop with the burden of carrying that heavy load or
    you can make do with less and have a very comfortable hike.

    Seriously I would leave about half that stuff at home and shoot for a 30# total weight with food and water, IE a 16# base weight.
    You are probably going to send half of it home anyway after a couple hundred miles.

    This is Matthew Edwards list from his AT thru last year.
    You dont have to spend a fortune either.
    You can set up a Sub 5# big 4 for less than $300 if you buy some slightly used and MYOG some of it.

    http://postholer.com/journal/viewGea...a&event_id=801

    He is at about 8# total.
    You can find some of his posts over at BPL.

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    Big 4
    My 2 cents you can take with a grain of salt.
    You can go UL and cheap but you need to MYOG for some of it.

    Used tarptent contrail - 26 oz. You can pick one up for $100-$125.
    Mariposa - 22 oz - Used $125 but I would look for one that is like new.
    MYOG sil pack cover - 2 oz - $10
    GG 1/8 pad ($10) and a Neoair small (on sale for $65) 11.5oz total - $75
    MYOG M90 Climashied quilt - sub $100 - Similar to a Spirit quilt reg size - 27dF 21 oz - $100
    Polycro/Frostking (makes 2 or 3)ground cloth 1.5 oz - $15
    Dry bag 2 oz - $15 for 5

    5.4#

    Add 5oz myog bag cookset, 10 oz everyday/nav, 4 oz med, etc etc etc.
    Just keep everything else under 6#-8# total and you will be good to go.

    Even if you kept your existing heavy pack, use the rest of the big 4 listed above, add 8# for everything else, plus 14# of food and water you would be at 29.6# total which is a heck of a lot better than 52#.

    You can go lighter still if you go tarp and a MYOG tyvek bivy. or use a Campmor extended poncho tarp - 9oz - double use as rain gear.

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    This is all you really need HERE (ignore the pop-up). It's tried and true. Add a trash compactor bag for a liner and 100 wt. fleece jacket if you want. Ditch stuff in summer to go even lighter.

    Get rid of all that para cord- 50 ft. of 2mm nylon cord is all you need for bear bagging. Cut 10 ft. off it for a clothes drying line.

    Can opener? Really?

    Cheers.

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    Bored so....
    Here is your list chopped and revised. You can probably do it for about $300-400 depending and just sell your other gear. I could have missed a few things but still a lot lighter.
    Below will put you at 30# with 5days food and 2L of H2o.


    Sleeping – Replace - 34oz

    Cut down Ridgerest or a Small neoair on a GG 1/8 pad – 12oz


    MYOG quilt or a golite ultra 20 etc - 21oz
    REI Sleeping Bag Stuff Sack 1oz

    Trek Poles Outdoor (Walmart) – OUT – Replace - 16oz

    They are junk anyway. You can find some good poles on sale now
    at about 16oz

    Backpack Etc... 62oz

    Backpack Liner (Trash Bag) 1oz
    Osprey Atmos 65 Backpack 57oz
    Osprey Medium Backpack Cover 4oz

    AT Companion book, Data book, Journal/Wallet – OUT – Replace - 2oz
    Small note pad and micro pencil - 2oz

    Tent - Too heavy – Replace Tent - 30oz
    Tarptent Contrail with stakes – 28oz

    Polycro ground cloth - 2oz


    If you will spend most of you time in shelters,
    I think its better to go with a shaped tarp and a net tent.


    Worn Clothes on Me – are not in my pack so I dont add them into a base weight
    You wont be wearing all of the stuff in your original list.

    Try.....
    1 Bandana 1oz
    Smartwool or other poly Tee - 7oz

    Columbia Titanium Long-Sleeve Shirt 10.5oz
    Columbia Omni-Wick Convertible Pants 12.5oz
    1 Hankerchief .5oz
    Insect Shield OR Gaiters 4.5oz
    Dri-Star Nylon/Polyester Socks 1.25oz
    Sunglasses 1oz
    Shoes


    Packed Clothes Bag – OUT – Replace - 60oz
    Way too much stuff...You will need an extra pack just to carry all the cloths

    in your original list.


    Instead TRY......


    One smartwool or poly tee - 7oz

    Poly liner gloves plus fleece mit overs – 3.5oz

    Sold at wallgreens now and I cut the finger tips out. $2
    Might want to make some tyvek over mitts if you will be in cold rain.

    Fleece hat – 1.5 oz

    1 set of johns - 10oz

    3 pairs of socks – 6 oz

    Driducks suit – 10oz - The UL one not the pro.

    Light Fleece shirt – 8 oz

    Insulated jacket - 14oz



    Food Bag (Army Green 1oz) – OUT – Replace - 4oz
    You need something better to keep the mice out.


    Ursak Minor - 4oz


    Medical/repair bag (red .5oz) – OUT - Replace - 8oz


    Way too much stuff. Believe me you can do it in 4-8 oz depending.

    Stove Bag 1 (Blue 1oz) – OUT – Replace - 6oz


    Way too heavy. Replace with alcohol bag Foster can cook set
    in a country time lemonade container.
    Basically free to make.

    Bathroom/Hygenie (Blue Waterbag 1oz) – OUT – Replace - 10oz

    Just downsize everything

    Misc 35.5oz – OUT – Replace – 11.5

    You dont need all this stuff.

    Headlamp 1oz
    Mini Flashlight - out
    MP3 Charger 3oz
    Mylar Sheet - out
    Cough Drops – out, take 2 and buy them on the trail if you need them
    Knife – out, small one in pocket. Swiss army with the saw, tweezers can opener etc.
    Insect Repellent 1oz
    Hand Sanitizer 3oz
    Hackie-Sack - out
    Paper Work, ID, BC, SSC – only one 1oz
    Braclets, Pins, Earrings - out
    Pencils, Eraser, Sharpener - out
    Case, Ruler - out
    2 Caribiners (Orange) - out
    2 Caribiners (Black) - out
    MP3 Player W/Headphones 2.5oz

    Bags – OUT



    You need to add


    Water kit – 9oz
    Include a filter, chloring drops couple of platys or UL 1L bottles etc.
    or just go tablets and save #


    Emer kit – 4oz
    Space blanket, matches, etc

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    Well I know it has been awhile though i have been out of town and haven't had access to the internet. Though i have taken into consideration all of your advices and have come up with the following so please let me know what else I may do to lower my total pack weight. I have not included food nor water so please take that into consideration.

    My current Base Pack Weight is 414.25oz = 25lbs 14.25oz


    My new list consist of the following so please critique yet remember my funds are limited and I am working with what I have. If you were to look at my previous list you will see that I have gotten rid of over 10lbs of stuff so far. So anything will help... THank you

    Clothes 95.5oz = 5lbs 15.5oz


    1 Bandana 1oz
    1 Dri-Star Under Armour 4.5oz
    Titanium Quick-Dry T-shirt 6oz
    Dri-Star Thermal Top 5.25oz
    Dri-Star Thermal Bottoms 6oz
    1 Pair of Boxers 3oz
    Swimming Shorts 7oz
    2 Pairs Dri-Star Nylon/Polyester Socks 2.25oz
    1 Pair Wool Socks 3oz
    Zero-X-Posure Gloves 3oz
    Water-Proof Insulated Jacket 39oz
    Fleece jacket 15.5oz


    Tent Bag 82.25oz - 5lbs2.25oz

    Bag 2.75oz
    REI Passanger 2 Tent 31oz
    REI Passanger 2 Rainfly 26.5oz
    10 Aluminum Stakes 3.5oz
    2 Aluminum Poles w/bag 17oz
    2 Tie Down Strings 1.5oz



    Sleeping 60.5oz = 3lbs 12.5oz

    Army Closed-Cell Sleeping Pad 19.5oz
    Army 30+ Sleeping Bag 37oz
    REI Sleeping Bag Stuff Sack 1oz
    Mylar Sleeping Bag 3oz


    Backpack 67oz = 4lbs 3oz

    Osprey Atmos 65 Backpack 57oz
    Osprey Medium Backpack Cover 4oz
    2Liter H2O Bladder 6oz



    Books 15oz

    Appalachian Trail Thru-Hiker's Compainion 11oz
    Journal 4oz





    Repair Kit 2oz

    (Gorilla Super Glue, Saftey Pins,1 Ferrules,
    2 Nylon Mesh Patch, Floor Patch, Ripstop Nylon Patch,
    Shock Cord, 2 Steel Needles, 20ft Fishing Line)




    Medical 7.5oz

    2 Moleskins, 10 Bandaids, 10 Butterfly Closures,
    Small Roll Gauze, Neosporin, Lip Balm 2oz

    Inhaler 1.5oz
    Deet 1oz
    Mini Swiss Knife 1oz
    Pain Pills 1oz
    Elastic Wrap 1oz






    Stove Bag 31oz = 1lb 15oz


    Steel Pot W/Lid 8.5oz
    20 Potable Aqua Chlorine Dioxide Tablets .25oz
    Stove, Pot Stand, Windscreen 2oz
    Spoon 1.25oz
    Potable Aqua Iodine + PA 2oz
    Matches .25oz
    Lighter .25oz
    2 Bottles Fuel 8.5oz
    Steel Cup 5oz
    35ft Parachute Cord 3oz




    Bathroom/Hygenie 39.5oz = 2lbs 7.5oz


    Camp Towel 3.5oz
    Shampoo&Conditioner 3oz
    Wipes 9oz
    Floss .5oz
    Deoderant 2.5oz
    Toilet Paper 3oz
    Dr. Bonner's Bar Soap 6oz
    Brush 2.5oz
    Toothpaste 4oz
    Toothbrush 1.5oz
    Hand Sanitizer 3oz
    Q-Tips 1oz



    Misc 14oz

    2 S-Biners 1oz
    Knife 5oz
    Flashlight 2.5oz
    Misc 5.5oz





    Now Here is a list of Clothes that I will be wearing on me and are not included in my base weight.

    48.75oz = 3lbs .75oz




    Sunglasses 1oz
    1 Bandana 1oz
    SD Baseball Hat 3.5oz
    1 Dri-Star Under Armour 4.5oz
    Champion T-Shirt 6.5oz
    Columbia Titanium Long-Sleeve Shirt 10.5oz

    1 Pair of Boxers 3oz
    Columbia Omni-Wick Convertible Pants 12.5oz
    1 Pair Dri-Star Nylon/Polyester Socks 1.25oz
    Insect Shield OR Gaiters 5oz






    Trek Poles 24oz = 1lb 8oz

    *Trek Poles Outdoor (Walmart) 22.5oz
    *Duct Tape 1.5oz

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    Better but you are still going to be at almost 40# with 5 days food and 2L of water.
    Better than it was before but you can still chop off about another 5# pretty easy.

    You are doing okay but you have a few very heavy items that have to go. Get rid of the heavy stuff, especially the
    biggest offenders and you will lose over 7#.
    That will put you at about 18# base weight and 32# with food and 2L of h20.

    You need to do some used shopping over at BPL.
    http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-....html?forum=19

    The Water-Proof Insulated Jacket at 39oz is way too heavy - lose 2#.
    Look around for a Montbell down UL inner or a thermawrap parka.
    The Thermawrp parka will weigh about 14 oz and the down UL inner jacket about 7oz.
    I just bought a down UL inner jacket on BPL for $50.

    Tent is way too heavy - lose 2#
    Your options
    Eureka Spitfire - $90 on sale - 3# - replace the stakes with titanium.
    Eureka Solitare - $55 - less than 3# - Replace the poles with aluminum. Its alomst a bivy tent, IE you can not sit up in it.
    Tarptent Contrail - $120 used - 24-26oz

    Sleeping - All too Heavy - lose 1.75#

    Gossemer gear 1/8 foam pad and used prolite 3 small - $45 and 14oz
    Used Montbell #3 ultralight - $200 - 18oz - or other used UL bag or MYOG.
    YOu can build a 30dF MYOG quilt for $100 or less.
    You dont need the Mylar Sleeping Bag

    Backpack 67oz = 4lbs 3oz
    Too heavy for me but a good pack.
    A platy 2 liter non zip badder is lighter than 6oz

    Books - too heavy - lose 14 oz - You will end up tossing the heavy one or send back anyway.

    Stove Bag - too heavy - save maybe 1# here.
    Put one of these together. Its basically free - 5 oz.
    Just test it out at home and learn to bag cook.
    <a href="http://s195.photobucket.com/albums/z300/tammons3/Hiking%20gear/?action=view&amp;current=18ozcookkit.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z300/tammons3/Hiking%20gear/18ozcookkit.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

    If you can afford it buy a ursak minor and odor proof bags. The Ursak minor and one odor proof bag weighs 4oz and you just tie it to a tree.
    IE no hanging, throwing rocks etc.

    Bathroom/Hygenie - Can go lighter - lose maybe 4 oz
    Just research over at BPL

    Misc - suggestions

    2 S-Biners 1oz
    Knife - Get a kershaw chill and stick it in your pocket - $18 on Amazon - 2oz
    Flashlight - get a headlamp

    You Walmart trekking poles will not last. Trust me - lose 4.5 oz
    Invest in some decent poles.
    Sunny Sports has Black Diamond Ergo Cork poles on sale for $57 - 18oz.

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    Nice one 4 eye - I wasn't willing to go there - but you nailed it... Still don't like the army bag but what are you going to do?


    I went back and weighed my largest heaviest knife I use in Pest control and its 4oz... what ever you got, loose that too. keep the micro Swiss, get a hardened steel lightweight not Swiss see my gallery - I have an old 3oz one I rescued from a farmers market.

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    dehydrate your wet wipes, wet them when you need them.
    use your spare spare of boxers as swimming shorts- ie, swim in your boxers that you've been hiking in, (bonus- no awkward changing- just strip down and swim) Or- just use the swimming shorts as your shorts.

    Can you use the shampoo as soap, ditching the soap, or ditch the shampoo?

    Put one of the water purifiers in your bounce box to switch them up, if you're concerned about the long term impact of either (esp. the iodine). Put the book in the same box.


    You guys have "McDonalds, McCafe" over there? You can get long handled plastic spoons there that are pretty light weight.
    +1 for freezer bag cooking. It's amazing. and the cat stove.
    Can you use the steel cup as your pot? then you could ditch the pot- or ditch the cup- either drink out of you pot, or get a lighter (plastic)mug.

    Look at a MYOG tarp or tarp tent.
    just call me TH
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