Gear List Almost done, did I miss anything?

[slugger]

Right now as it’s 20lb before food, water and the items I haven’t picked up yet. I have 2.5 lb being shipped for cold weather gear at the end of August.

Just a note I am going with my friend so things are for two people. We will be sharing the stove, water filter, med kit items; so some of this maybe transferred to his pack once we figure out the weight of our two packs. I know some items could be lighters, i.e. water filter, stove, tent but for now I'm going to try it, i think. I'm struggling letting go of the money I spent on the items before I was enlightened.

Things I need to buy and weigh still: 2 boxers, one SL shirt, Body Glide, Eyeglass Case, Bic, Sponge, Phone, Kindle, Camera, Chargers, Money, ID, Debit Card. I also have extra stuff stacks listed for now as I’m not sure how many I am going to use yet.

Pack Group

• Pack: Deuter 65+10 Weight: 64 oz
• Pack Cover: REI Duck’s Back Rain Cover 100L Weight: 5.8

Sleeping Gear

• Sleeping Bag: REI Sub Kilo 15 Womens Long Weight: 32.75 oz
• Sleeping Pad: Big Agnes Insulated Air Mummy Pad Weight:23.4 oz
• Liner: Cocoon Ripstop Silk Liner Weight: 4.25 oz
• Tent: REI Quarter Dome T1 Weight: 56.2 oz

Kitchen

• Stove: MSR WhisperLite International Weight:13.35 oz
• Fuel Tank: MSR 11oz fuel tank and pump Weight: 5.55 oz
• Pot: REI Ti ware Pasta Pot Weight: 4.1 oz
• Frying Pan: MSR BackLite Frying Pan Weight: 5.9 oz
• Mug: MSR Titan Mug Weight: 2 oz
• Spork: Sea to Summit Alpha Light Spork Weight: 0.3 oz
• Water Filter: Katadyn Hiker Pro Weight: 15.8 oz
• Bladder: 3L Weight: 6.5 oz
• Bladder: 1L weight: 1.4 oz

Hygiene/First Aid/General Group

• Tooth Paste: Travel Size Weight: 1.15 oz
• Soap: Travel Size Weight: 2.7 oz
• Tooth Brush(full size) Weight: 0.5 oz
• Multi Vitamins (90 Pills) Weight: 5.05 oz
• Ibuprofen (24 Pills) + Acetaminophen (24 Pills) Weight: 0.85 oz
• 2 Ace Bandages Weight: 3.5 oz
• Needles Weight: 0.15 oz
• Thread Weight: 0.2 oz
• 2 4×4 Gauze Pads Weight: 0.3 oz
• 5×9 Gauze Pad Weight: 0.4 oz
• Alcohol Pads(5) Weight: 0.2 oz
• Toilet Paper Weight: 4.6 oz
• Space Blanket Weight: 1.75 oz
• Potable Aqua Weight: 2.2 oz
• GPS Locater: Spot 2 Weight: 4.2 oz
• Spot strap Weight: 0.2 oz
• Whistle Weight: 0.3 oz
• Bug Net Weight: 0.65 oz
• Bug Spray: Coleman 100 Max Weight: 0.9 oz
• Rope: 2 mm Rope Weight: 1.1 oz
• Headlight: Petzl Tikka Plus Weight: 2.7 oz
• Knife: Leatherman Style CS Weight: 1.5 oz

Clothing Worn

• Boots: Tiva Riva eVent Weight: 35 oz
• Poles: Black Diamond Contour Elliptical Weight (Plus Duct tape): 20.75 oz
• Shirt: Champion Training Top Weight: 4.95 oz
• Pants: REI Convertible Nylon Pants Weight: 13.25 oz
• Socks: REI Wool Light hiking Socks Weight: 2.7 oz
• Socks: REI CoolMax Liners Weight: 0.85

Cloths Packed

• Socks: REI Wool Light hiking Socks Weight: 2.7 oz
• Socks: REI CoolMax Liners Weight: 0.85 oz
• Rain Jacket: Marmot Precipt Weight: 13 oz
• Camp Shoes: Knock off Crocs Weight: 8.8 oz
• Base Layer: Patagonia 3 Top Weight: 7.15 oz
• Base Layer: Patagonia 3 Bottoms Weight: 6.9 oz
• 3x Bananas Weight: 3.3 oz

Winter cloths to be mailed later

• Down Jacket: Large Marmot Zeus Weight: 15.75 oz
• Heavy Thermal Top: REI Heavyweight Polartec Weight: 13.45 oz
• Heavy Thermal Bottom: REI Heavyweight Polartec Weight: 9 oz
• Light Gloves: EMS Power Stretch Weight: 1.85 oz

Stuff Sacks

• REI 15L Lightweight Stuff Sack Weight: 0.85 oz
• REI 15L Lightweight Stuff Sack Weight: 1.05 oz
• Sea to Summit 20L Weight: 1.85 oz
• Wal-mart Green Weight: 1.4 oz
• Wal-mart Orange Weight: 1 oz
• Wal-mart Blue Weight: 0.8 oz

As for my plan I have the flight and shuttle lined and reservations in the mail. We will be getting shuttled to Roaring Brook campground and going up the Helon N. Taylor trail and over the knifes edge and down the Hunt trail to Katahdin stream camp ground.

[nox]

depending on when you head out and how much snow is still on the ground, you might want to bring a pair of rain pants with elastic or velcro on the bottoms to help keep snow out of your boots and socks... when are you shipping out?

[slugger]

Hitting the trail June 15th.

I have a set of gators I could pack and send home.

I also forgot a Guild book. It's still in the mail.

[Blissful]

Just to let you know, the Walmart stuff sacks are not waterproof.
Leave the water filter and potable aqua at home and go with Aqua Mira, one for each of you.
No space blanket
I know you want your stove, but there are ones that weigh a lot less. But its up to you
I'd skip the frying pan, but it's up to you
Make sure you are ready for bugs and mud.

I can tell you with the gear you still need plus food and water, you're gonna be heavy. And the trail is steep after the 100 mile wilderness (except Katahdin, the descent there is quite bad on fresh knees and limbs. The Chairback Range is fairly tough too) and gets worse as you go until you get to Glencliff, NH (after that, smooth sailing). Tough stuff. I know you are struggling with money already spent, but it will be a lot more expensive if you have to get off because you couldn't handle the weight of your gear or you suffer knee injuries (I saw two guys have to leave after 2 days because one had a knee injury off K).

It is also really tough sharing gear with a"friend" unless they (or you) are in it for the long haul. Too many times I've seen friends start out, one drops out and the other is left lugging "shared" gear. Really suggest you think about having your own gear. Esp on a SOBO hike which is hard.

Just remember you don't have the luxury like NOBOs do of Neel Gap after four days to change out gear. You can mail stuff home at White House Landing (they are expensive, but a good stop) or if you can get a hitch to Greenville by the Gulf Hagas, there is an outfitter there. But the hitch is difficult, esp coming back as its logging roads (you could get one into town pretty easily from visitors to Gulf Hagas). You really need to be set with your gear for many weeks. And that's hard.

BTW - I think that is too early to mail cold weather gear. I wouldn't do it until 1st of October

You have a really tough first day, IMO. I would not got that route personally unless you are in good shape. I assume you are are leaving your gear at KSC ranger station first.

[slugger]

Thanks for the thought out responses blissful.

Just to let you know, the Walmart stuff sacks are not waterproof.

Good to know.

Leave the water filter and potable aqua at home and go with Aqua Mira, one for each of you.

I'm sure your wright but I started with the aqua and really didn't like it. Not sure if it's a trust issue or convenience but either way I haven't taken the idea off the table.

No space blanket

I wasn't sure about this I was holding it as a backup plan if my down bag got wet.

I know you want your stove, but there are ones that weigh a lot less. But its up to you
I'd skip the frying pan, but it's up to you

I'm still very conflicted I originally spent way to much on it before I knew what I know now. I originally got it because it burns anything and I didn't want to worry about fuel availability but i now know that's really not a problem. Now I'm just struggling to deal with the money I wasted if i don't bring it. I got the frying pan as I do like to cook. I will probably start with it but it might be in the mail home.

It is really tough sharing gear with a"friend" unless they are in it for the long haul. Too many times I've seen friends start out, one drops out and the other is left lugging "shared" gear. Really suggest you think about having your own gear.

I know this is a possibility. That's one of the reasons I bought all of the shared gear and added the weight to my pack. In case Barf drops out I will know exactly what I have to carry and how much it will boost my weight. So my base weight will go down some as soon has he has his pack sorted out.

BTW - I think that is way too early to mail cold weather gear. I wouldn't do it until 1st of October

I will have to consider this. I wasn't 100% sure when I should get it. I have to take a week off to be in a wedding at the end of August so I figured get it then. But I could see waiting.

You have a really tough first day, IMO. I would not got that route personally unless you are in real good shape,. I assume you are are leaving your gear at KSC ranger station first.

Middle to low end of the in shape group but up for a challenge? I know it's not the easiest or most common but I thought it sounded like a nice way to see more of the park and challenge myself. My shuttle said I can trade out packs if someone else that day is getting off at KS but if not I think we are going up heavy.

[Blissful]

At any rate, do not carry your packs up K and down it, you will regret it totally. Hopefully they can let you drop off your pack at the ranger station.

The weather can be nasty on K too. It has its own cloud. Which is another reason I wouldn't do the Knife Edge unless it was great weather (and you are stuck doing it with whatever the weather is). If you get high winds and sleet like we had July 1, it could be a really awful day.

You are challenged enough just doing this SOBO, believe me. Make it easy and enjoy the first day, don't kill yourself (or your body) on day one.

Aqua Mira does fine, I have a sensitive stomach and used it for two hikes. Just don't use it with Beaver ponds in Vermont or with streams out of pastures. I used it with drought situations this summer in mud puddles. The trick is not to get water from outlets where it can come in contact with foul stuff.

[crazystick]

Thats a great stove, I love my whisperlite international, but I love it for high altitude or cold weather camping. And yea, its expensive.
but for long distance backpacking, its too heavy, to much to go wrong with it too. if you dont wanna spend the $$ on something like a pocket rocket ($50) maybe think about making a alcohol stove, those are extremely cheap to make, and replace. just a thought.

[mountain squid]

Some observations:

extra pr of always dry socks - as Blissful mentioned think mud
have your cold weather gear at least for the Whites, 'Home of the World's Worst Weather'
balaclava
maps
is a 'guild' book a guide book?!?
lighter
hand sanitizer
pencil
notebook
if no cell phone, don't forget important phone #s
ear plugs
is that rope the type that might cut through a branch, potentially suspending your food out of reach?

Concur:
aqua mira instead of filter
lighter stove - consider alcohol, it is readily available - check out antigravitygear
leave frying pan - at least until your comfortable walking all day, every day
sharing gear might be problematic

And, of course, don't forget ID/atm/credit cards.

Good Luck and Have Fun!

See you on the trail,
mt squid

[leaftye]

tape (get leukotape, it breathes and sticks as well or better than duct tape)
large trash bag
fire starters
alcohol
windscreen for stove
another pair of socks
underwear?
hiking paper stuffs


Lose:
one of the pans
mug
ace bandages
Spot strap
bug net or spray
base layer bottoms or bag liner or base layer top and bottoms
gloves
pack cover
space blanket
duct tape


Also, if you dump the filter, then dump the 3L bladder too. Use bottled water bottles.

There are quite a few substitutions you could make, but changes mean $ unless you can recoup new purchases by selling your old gear.

[Rocket Jones]

There must be some alternative to carrying a 3 month supply of multi-vitamins?

[leaftye]

odor proof bag

[Appalachian Tater]

Anything you can do without or think you might mail home, leave it at home to begin with. And don't even think about hauling your pack up Katahdin--even the NOBO thru-hikers who are in good shape don't do it.

[seabrookhiker]

FWIW, I used to use Aqua Mira and always had an upset stomach on the trail. I put it down to nerves, different food, and more exercise. Then I ran out of Aqua Mira and drank straight from streams for a few days. Miraculously happy tummy. Got more Aqua Mira in town, tummy trouble came back. I ditched the Aqua Mira at the next stop.

Now I use a steripen or gravity filter.

Some people (like me) can't handle Aqua Mira. In all likelihood, it would probably be fine to get water from sources that "look" good, faucets, etc. But I can't bring myself to not treat at all, except in emergencies.