Mangold Venom

**zelph** · 02-04-2010, 19:32

I made these yesterday and had not been able to do further testing.

We need to come up with a name for this new stove size. Help me out

It was mkmangolds idea and he furnished the material.

**jeremyduncan** · 02-04-2010, 22:27

I really like these stoves and I happen to have a few of those aluminum beer bottles laying abound that I still need to use. How did you make them?

I realize that has probably been discussed somewhere else, but I have searched around and cannot find anything other than a demonstration of them working.

**Big Dawg** · 02-04-2010, 22:59

Originally Posted by zelph

I made these yesterday and had not been able to do further testing.

We need to come up with a name for this new stove size. Help me out

It was mkmangolds idea and he furnished the material.

not to dis mangold.... but

aren't these still considered super stoves? therefore "Venom Super Stove" seems appropriate. How much do you think the slightly wider design will change efficiency, etc.? I wouldn't think much if any.

**Big Dawg** · 02-04-2010, 23:01

btw... any Black Mamba's?

**mkmangold** · 02-05-2010, 01:34

Originally Posted by Big Dawg

not to dis mangold.... but

aren't these still considered super stoves? therefore "Venom Super Stove" seems appropriate. How much do you think the slightly wider design will change efficiency, etc.? I wouldn't think much if any.

ok, so how's 'bout "Mangold SuperStoves?" Just sayin'!

**iamscottym** · 02-05-2010, 09:01

On a related note, I found a source for cheap aluminum bottles in various sizes.

http://www.specialtybottle.com/index...ROD&ProdID=394

**Big Dawg** · 02-05-2010, 09:09

Originally Posted by mkmangold

ok, so how's 'bout "Mangold SuperStoves?" Just sayin'!

okokok,,,, but I think Venom should be in there somewhere.... so how bout "Mangold Venom SS"?

**RollingStone** · 02-05-2010, 15:55

Originally Posted by jeremyduncan

I really like these stoves and I happen to have a few of those aluminum beer bottles laying abound that I still need to use. How did you make them?

I realize that has probably been discussed somewhere else, but I have searched around and cannot find anything other than a demonstration of them working.

Basically the bottle is inverted through the use of a die and a press, or a die and lathe. There are several ways to do it.

As much as I hate to say this, he sells his stuff cheap enough that unless you already have a shop with these things in it, just buy one from em and be done. If you have your own tools, get out there and play around.

**zelph** · 02-05-2010, 17:08

Thank you everyone for your replies.

I had the thought of keeping the name inline with the already established theme of "snakes" The 3 different bottles that I've made into stoves have names like: "Black Mamba", "Killer Taipan" and "Mojave Rattler"

Many of us are familiar with the "Timber Rattler" snake.

How about "MKTimber Rattler" - "Mangold Rattler" - "Mangold SS" - "Mangold Mamba"

I think it best to keep the name Super Stove away from this stove. Reason being.........confusion in ordering a stove.

I have to get back to my testing

I need to get you some numbers and facts.

**Big Dawg** · 02-05-2010, 17:19

Zelph... how much for these stoves?

**mister krabs** · 02-05-2010, 18:10

Zelph, the mouth of the venom bottles are thick walled, does the thickness taper off at the neck, or is the whole bottle that thick?

**zelph** · 02-05-2010, 23:12

Originally Posted by Big Dawg

Zelph... how much for these stoves?

Don't know yet.....would you believe 2 bottles cost me $4.98,,,gulp!!!! at the local Mobil gas station. The only place I've found it for sale.

mister krabs, the thickness tapers off to .017 thick. Mountain dew measures in at .016

My wife came home early and was not able to do optimum condition testing. I did a few in the garage but it's way to humid out there today. Condensation coming off the pot like crazy hindering the tests. Garage temp and water were at 30 degrees.

Stove holds 1 ounce of fuel. My die also works well with "Snapple" energy drink bottles. I formed one with the die. I have about a dozen bottles that I will make into Cobalt stoves that will have a fuel capacity of 4 ounces of fuel. Some folks might think on that. We see threads that indicate the only way to cook for 2 is with canister stoves. The new Cobalt will have the larger diameter base and a feature that will make it totally resistant to pots of cold water being placed on it. When I get a good source of Venom bottles I'll make the new Cobalt with those also. New things on the horizon. Why make a Cobalt with the new size bottles????? Larger footprint for stability, more fuel capacity for "cooking for two", melting snow for bath water

there are folks out there that like flaming jets

**mkmangold** · 02-06-2010, 01:40

Originally Posted by zelph

Thank you everyone for your replies.How about "MKTimber Rattler" - "Mangold Rattler" - "Mangold SS" - "Mangold Mamba"

It's too funny cuz I'm totally humbled by all of this! I like "Mangold Mamba" the best.
Now, let's work on getting some of them off to Haiti to sterilize water and cook food. Zelph: as soon as you have 5 done, I'll buy them and get them over there and pay for postage. Anyone willing to match me on this?

**Toolshed** · 02-06-2010, 08:19

BTW, did you see the tins they had for sale for less than a dollar? Perhaps a new source of greasepot like pots with lids?

**zelph** · 02-06-2010, 09:55

mkmangold , "Mangold Mamba" let it be written, let it be done!!!!!

I should have some available by early next week for shipping.

What fuel is available in Haiti?

I'll buy them and get them over there and pay for postage. Anyone willing to match me on this?

Count me in....I'll donate 5 bud "Super Stoves" they're ready to go. I'll put them in the mail today.

Toolshed, those tins are too small and will rust.

**mkmangold** · 02-07-2010, 00:19

Originally Posted by zelph

What fuel is available in Haiti? Count me in....I'll donate 5 bud "Super Stoves" they're ready to go. I'll put them in the mail today.

Zelph: thanks so much. The most prevalent fuel is ethanol. The stoves will be going with my mom's church group. When, I don't know yet. Anyone else want to donate stoves, let Zelph know. I'll be headed down to Illinois to do an "in-service" to the church members when I get them.

**zelph** · 02-09-2010, 14:47

Originally Posted by mkmangold

Zelph: thanks so much. The most prevalent fuel is ethanol. The stoves will be going with my mom's church group. When, I don't know yet. Anyone else want to donate stoves, let Zelph know. I'll be headed down to Illinois to do an "in-service" to the church members when I get them.

Let me know when you head on down, we can meet up somewhere and shoot the breeze.

I have your 5 Mangold Mamba's and 5 Super Stoves shipping out today.

I have an extra 4 Mamba available if anyone wants one @ $17.50 FREE shipping. (barebones)

**Big Dawg** · 02-09-2010, 19:31

Originally Posted by zelph

I have an extra 4 Mamba available if anyone wants one @ $17.50 FREE shipping. (barebones)

You know I want one!!! Money already sent!!

**zelph** · 02-10-2010, 13:31

Originally Posted by Big Dawg

You know I want one!!! Money already sent!!

I saved one for you and will ship today.

**cruisaire** · 02-28-2010, 19:42

A simply SUPERB stove.....bar none! Zelph, you've done it again!!!! Easy to use, no waiting, lights fast.

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