heavy daypack

**mad4scrapping** · 09-03-2009, 19:02

When I put the 10 essentials in my daypack, plus the water bladder (empty) and some snacks, my pack weights in at 6.5 pounds! I'm using a North Face Ion 20, which I love.

The pack is still comfortable on my back, but this seems a little heavy. Or is this right?

**Manwich** · 09-03-2009, 19:04

10 essentials?

**Egads** · 09-03-2009, 19:12

Originally Posted by mad4scrapping

When I put the 10 essentials in my daypack, plus the water bladder (empty) and some snacks, my pack weights in at 6.5 pounds! I'm using a North Face Ion 20, which I love.

The pack is still comfortable on my back, but this seems a little heavy. Or is this right?

Doesn't seem right. You definitely have opportunity to drop some pack weight.

Post your list and we'll provide some suggestions

**mad4scrapping** · 09-03-2009, 19:23

Here's what's in my pack: (more than just the 10 essentials!)

first aid kit (with extra ibuprofen)
rain jacket (very small, folds into its own pouch)
small knife/carabiner
compass (looks like a watch)
whistle
bandana
bag of trail mix (lunchbag size)
two fiber one bars
small notebook and pen
Book: Circuit hikes in SNP
empty Camelback 2 liter bladder
small digital camera in case
baseball cap (I wear this)
dog leash (dog will use this)
6 oz. Repel
chapstick
pocketpack of Kleenex
small wallet with credit cards and id
moleskin
space blanket
1 oz sunscreen
travelpack of wet wipes

**mad4scrapping** · 09-03-2009, 19:23

I should also mention that I usually hike by myself, so I have to bring everything myself.

**Wise Old Owl** · 09-03-2009, 19:34

Originally Posted by mad4scrapping

Here's what's in my pack: (more than just the 10 essentials!)

first aid kit (with extra ibuprofen) Dump bandaids-add Loperamide for disentary,
rain jacket (very small, folds into its own pouch) weight? OK
small knife/carabiner
compass (looks like a watch)
whistle
bandana
bag of trail mix (lunchbag size)
two fiber one bars
small notebook and pen
Book: Circuit hikes in SNP
empty Camelback 2 liter bladder
small digital camera in case
baseball cap (I wear this)
dog leash (dog will use this)
6 oz. Repel mini version of deep woods off pump
chapstick
pocketpack of Kleenex toilet paper (have it)
small wallet with credit cards and id
moleskin
space blanket Sucks - replace with something better even if its a down bag.
1 oz sunscreen
travelpack of wet wipes

From experience.
micro pack of Propel or fitness /Gatorade additive.
1 extra pair of hinking socks.

**mad4scrapping** · 09-03-2009, 19:43

Thanks WWO.
I do have the Loperamide (Immodium) in there already! I carry them everywhere. Why ditch the bandaids?

**Egads** · 09-03-2009, 19:56

It's kinda hard to really say what you can eliminate since I don't know where you hike, the weather conditions, the distance you hike, how well marked the trails are, how well traveled the trails are, your health, the ruggedness of the area, & your skill & experience level.

Most of my hikes are day or weekend longer distance than the average hiker, on well marked trails, and I travel light & fast.

My comments are in blue and are related to day hikes only

first aid kit (with extra ibuprofen) pack benedryl, ibuprofen, antacid, band aids
rain jacket (very small, folds into its own pouch) I carry a frogg togg top ~10 ozs
small knife/carabiner I don't carry
compass (looks like a watch) I don't carry
whistle I don't carry
bandana I don't carry
bag of trail mix (lunchbag size) I don't carry
two fiber one bars
small notebook and pen I don't carry
Book: Circuit hikes in SNP I don't carry
empty Camelback 2 liter bladder
small digital camera in case I rarely carry
baseball cap (I wear this)
dog leash (dog will use this)
6 oz. Repel I don't carry
chapstick
pocketpack of Kleenex I don't carry
small wallet with credit cards and id
moleskin I don't carry
space blanket I don't carry
1 oz sunscreen I don't carry
travelpack of wet wipes[/quote] I don't carry

I don't see fire, a head lamp, or stocking cap on your list. I usually carry Aquamira to treat water

I add a Montbell Innerdown parka & tarp when it starts cooling off

**Snowleopard** · 09-03-2009, 20:01

What wise old owl said minus:
wet wipes -- how many do you need? save a couple ounces by taking fewer or none?
How much does your first aid kit weigh?
Book: copy the pages you need.

Maybe you can get away without in Virginia, but up here unless it's a short local hike you need to add:
On a nice summer day add warm clothes, at least a fleece jacket. In the higher mountains up here (Adirondack, Green, Whites) add at least a hat. Those add about a pound.
Spring and Fall, add perhaps another layer such as long johns or a vest. In some places on a bad spring or fall day add full winter gear.

**Snowleopard** · 09-03-2009, 20:07

Originally Posted by Egads

...
]I don't see a head lamp
...

Egads, I didn't notice that: no light! Definitely bring a flashlight or headlamp. I like to carry a good headlamp and for backup a cheap ($1) photon type squeeze lamp (attached to my car keys). My only near disasters were caused by not carrying a light in winter. It would be really embarrassing to suffer cold injuries or death a mile from home because of no light.

**mad4scrapping** · 09-03-2009, 20:10

Good point on the headlamp. I'll go "borrow" my daughter's.

**Wise Old Owl** · 09-03-2009, 20:15

Originally Posted by mad4scrapping

Thanks WWO.
I do have the Loperamide (Immodium) in there already! I carry them everywhere. Why ditch the bandaids?

When if ever, do you need them. the TP will dry them out.

**Wise Old Owl** · 09-03-2009, 20:16

Originally Posted by Egads

It's kinda hard to really say what you can eliminate since I don't know where you hike, the weather conditions, the distance you hike, how well marked the trails are, how well traveled the trails are, your health, the ruggedness of the area, & your skill & experience level.

Most of my hikes are day or weekend longer distance than the average hiker, on well marked trails, and I travel light & fast.

My comments are in blue and are related to day hikes only

first aid kit (with extra ibuprofen) pack benedryl, ibuprofen, antacid, band aids
rain jacket (very small, folds into its own pouch) I carry a frogg togg top ~10 ozs
small knife/carabiner I don't carry
compass (looks like a watch) I don't carry
whistle I don't carry
bandana I don't carry
bag of trail mix (lunchbag size) I don't carry
two fiber one bars
small notebook and pen I don't carry
Book: Circuit hikes in SNP I don't carry
empty Camelback 2 liter bladder
small digital camera in case I rarely carry
baseball cap (I wear this)
dog leash (dog will use this)
6 oz. Repel I don't carry
chapstick
pocketpack of Kleenex I don't carry
small wallet with credit cards and id
moleskin I don't carry
space blanket I don't carry
1 oz sunscreen I don't carry
travelpack of wet wipes

I don't carry

I don't see fire, a head lamp, or stocking cap on your list. I usually carry Aquamira to treat water

I add a Montbell Innerdown parka & tarp when it starts cooling off
[/quote]

wow, Ok I was playing nice.... I agree - but can I take pictures?

**bigcranky** · 09-03-2009, 20:18

You are worried that your daypack weighs 6.5 pounds? Seriously? That's fine -- enjoy your hikes. My daypack usually weighs 25 or 30, what with the cameras, tripod, maybe a spotting scope, field guides, etc.

**Egads** · 09-03-2009, 20:25

Mad4scrapping,

How much does your daypack weigh? May be some opportunity there.

Here is a link to my 15 oz day pack
http://www.gearzone.com/Salomon-Raid.../187-10511.htm

**Wise Old Owl** · 09-03-2009, 20:27

Everyone will at some point come full circle here, when all you need is a bottle of water and a camera and don't care about the weather. 15 miles and a tilly hat, and gorp is all you need.

Ain't life grand?

**mad4scrapping** · 09-03-2009, 20:29

Thanks, Big Cranky, I needed to hear that too!

I think the scale was wrong; I just tried the stuff on another scale and it was alot lighter.

Anyway, I"m off to SNP tomorrow. I hope to get on and off the trail before the holiday crowd arrives.

Thanks for the good advice.

**Egads** · 09-03-2009, 20:32

Originally Posted by mad4scrapping

I think the scale was wrong; I just tried the stuff on another scale and it was alot lighter.

That works too. Have a good hike

**Blissful** · 09-04-2009, 10:08

Originally Posted by bigcranky

You are worried that your daypack weighs 6.5 pounds? Seriously?

That's kind of of what I thought but I wasn't going to say anything.

I mean, yourlist looked perfectly fine to me, its what I carry. You carry what you need to be safe. But a headlamp is a must.

**bigcranky** · 09-04-2009, 10:29

Originally Posted by Blissful

That's kind of of what I thought but I wasn't going to say anything.

Yeah, well, I have a hard time keeping whatever thought that crosses my mind from coming out my mouth. Or my keyboard.

To the OP: no offense meant. 6.5 pounds is pretty light for a dayhike.

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