I've never seen this diversity of emoticons in one post...Who are you talking to? Cause you quoted me but...I'm concerned with a few of your points.
>Thank you, thank you very much.
Ever since WB upgraged from 4max I've been in emoticon heaven!
Sometimes I answer you directly, other times I use your qoute too make a point!
I use 1 ziploc bag per trip (and have RE USED) the same ziploc bag for many trips when I can. As I posted....
>When you say trip, I assume your mean a thru hike.
Regardless, I think thats cool!
My point was that I don't use extra bags to pack out trash and those can be reused as well!
I pack out ALL my trash, not TP. When the caretakers pick trash out of the collection bins they leave the TP and take out all solid trash items that anyone rudely discards in there.
> You don't consider TP trash and I do. I have offered many examples and aurguments where you have not.
Please don't tell me I'm not evolved with the rest of the world. I have experience, facts, and common sense to base my opinions on thank you though.
> Your welcome!
Some of us are just born knowing everything, you, the Dali Lama, the list goes on....
Me, I'm a slow learner.
It wasn't 'till my 6th trip that I had enough experience and facts for common sense to take over old ways of thinking...
But I'm a terrible person, so don't listen to me...
The duff that is flown in I believe is done so so that the natural ground "duff" that is produced would be quickly used up in a White Mountain Privy situation, leaving the surrounding area barren of any floor covering.
> I know.
But all that trouble and expense is required because most people in the outdoors, lets be honest, are not outdoorsmen.
IMHI, folks who bury their TP fall into the later category, sorry.
I understand you and have no hard feelings toward you- just trying to shed some light on way that doesn't leave litter to chance.
What I speak of putting in the cat hole is simply the SAME thing, adding natural surrounding organic material with the waste in which it composts, along with the TP. What the duff that is flown in does is add a slightly composted already organic material...like grabbing the wet leaves under the layer of dry ones. Simple organic chemistry. Try it out in your yard if you think I'm wrong. Take a crap in a cat hole in your backyard, put TP in it, add some wet leaves, twigs and bark, cover it. And then tell us in 3 months what has happened to it. Personally I don't like to sift through my cat holes after they are full, but it might be something up your alley with all your scientific desire for inquiry. Experiment for us...
> You know I tried that!!
Lucky for me there is always soft soil in MBY
, wet leaves too! All the neighbors have the hard black clay.
And the results are in........(imagine a drum roll here.........) never made it past three days before my dogs dug it up. Tp everywhere! I'm not going to beat myself up too much though
- common sense, facts, experience told me those results were likely.
I cannot guarantee that my cat hole will not get dug up by an animal. There is no guarantee that a Privy will not be subject to an animals curiosity, as well as a honey bag left in tent, in pack, outside shelter, tent or otherwise.
> Thanks for admitting I'm right and further inspiring me to pack out ALL my TP. I CAN guarantee my TP will never become litter, so can you, so can anybody. And its EASY, real easy.
But again, me cussing efin litterbugs is nothing personal!
BTW, you forgot to add hanging food from a limb to your list.
If one has concerns w/ protecting themselves, their food, the hikers behind them, AND the bear they should carry a bear canister. We are back to the guarantee argument on this subject too, for those of you wishing to debate.