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    Yea, you are right. Probably good SOP, in any event.

    Even if all indications point to one individual, no doubt best to play it safe until the situations is really understood to everyone's satisfaction, anyway.

    Did the link make it sound like the suspect was in the hospital too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickb View Post
    Did the link make it sound like the suspect was in the hospital too?
    Yep. He's on a respirator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickb View Post
    Yea, you are right. Probably good SOP, in any event.

    Even if all indications point to one individual, no doubt best to play it safe until the situations is really understood to everyone's satisfaction, anyway.

    Did the link make it sound like the suspect was in the hospital too?
    Yes, the link on Post #1 says he's at Roanoke Memorial Hospital. Couln't that cop kind of just wait a little bit before calling it in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wolf View Post
    another good reason to carry concealed. this guy should never have gotten out of prison. gotta take the law into your own hands these days
    Correct, at the end of the day....I'm the one going home to my family. Times are different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikerhead View Post
    Yes, the link on Post #1 says he's at Roanoke Memorial Hospital. Couln't that cop kind of just wait a little bit before calling it in?
    Thanks, the hyperlink in the article byline wasn't working, but the I now see "more" hyperlink works fine.

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    They always work like that for some reason.

    Stupid RSS...
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    Not to worry all. Just keep repeating: The trail is safer than anyplace else, the trail is safer than anyplace else, the trail is safer than anyplace else... and pass the Sheepleberry Kool-Aid.

    The trail is no more or less safe from the standpoint of crime than the areas it runs through. There is theft, assault, battery, rape, murder and everything else just like the rest of society. It isn't a remote wilderness devoid of crime.
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    Does anyone know if he ever walks on the trail? I saw a guy dressed in sweats at Angel's Rest the last of March that "at least resembled him" and didn't "look like a hiker". I moved on pretty quickly.

    Not related, but this was the same weekend the guy shot the police officer in Pearisburg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4eyedbuzzard View Post
    Not to worry all. Just keep repeating: The trail is safer than anyplace else, the trail is safer than anyplace else, the trail is safer than anyplace else... and pass the Sheepleberry Kool-Aid.

    The trail is no more or less safe from the standpoint of crime than the areas it runs through. There is theft, assault, battery, rape, murder and everything else just like the rest of society. It isn't a remote wilderness devoid of crime.
    becoming more and more commonplace too. obviously the blood mtn. incident isn't sinking in

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    Bob Mountford was a State of Maine Child Protective Caseworker, in the Ellsworth Office of Hancock County. He worked for the Dept. of Human Services and handled cases where children were being physically or/and sexually abused. What was that worth? You can't put a value to it; it is just too important! Fourteen-years? What a travesty of justice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wolf View Post
    becoming more and more commonplace too. obviously the blood mtn. incident isn't sinking in
    None of the dozen or so murder incidents before sunk in either. Why would we think this one or the next be any different? I guess maybe bad things only happen to other people. And after they're dead they're just statistics. It could never happen to me. Right?
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    I was absolutely enraged hearing this. The system let this killer out again, like a previous post indicated, HTF do those people who staked a claim to getting his release into parole and subsequently freedom feel now. What a bunch of BS!
    I understand part of it being he didnt even receive the sentence he should of had in the eariler murders, its just really sad the way that the legal system anymore works more for the criminal than the public.
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    I recall sitting on the deck at the hostel in Pearisburg, discussing violent crime along the AT with other hikers in '06. And the revelation to all that this guy, Smith, had been released and was still living in the area. I don't recall anyone expressing fear regarding his being out, more bewilderment at the gross imbalance of "justice" in the judicial system.

    The sad truth is that this tragic type of situation is not unique... No matter how badly we want it to forever be pristine, the AT is as vulnerable to human failings as anywhere else on the planet.

    I'm wondering if there are additional unsolved missing persons cases in the area/region...?
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    the reality is, when it is time to go, it is time to go.

    There will be situations where being armed will save your life.

    There will be situations where being armed will do nothing.

    I promise this, I feel no less safe walking in the woods than I do walking the streets of Philadelphia.


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    5pm news just said the AT was reopened today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofaking View Post
    which is only applicable to protecting yourself.or are you allowed to pre-empt a crime, like a vigilante? lone wolf, bears don't even f with you, no ex-con nut job is going to target you either. well, maybe if he was really crazy...
    Self-Defense, which is an absolute defense to charges of murder, assault, etc., applies not only to protecting one's self, but to any member of the human community.

    Self defense is not considered pre-emptive per se, but reactive to something that has already occured:

    say A points a gun @B, C can now shoot A in self defense.....
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    I'm putting a heads up here in this thread pertaining to the AT News articles filtering in which concern the recent shooting in VA. Most of these articles are obvious duplicates or nearly the same information. If the titles aren't duplicates but the thread relates to the shooting, those threads will be locked. This thread will continue to be available as long as no difficulties arise. It's just a housekeeping effort.

    If anyone feels that one of the locked threads is sufficently different to warrant reopening, PM me and include an admin on the PM for fast attention. Thanks.
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    That was the Wapiti Shelter that was...right? It was rebuilt at a different location (but in the same area)
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    Quote Originally Posted by HIKER7s View Post
    That was the Wapiti Shelter that was...right? It was rebuilt at a different location (but in the same area)
    There was the old Wapiti shelter, near the Ribble Trail, which was torn down several years after they built the new Wapiti (II) shelter a few miles north of the old shelter site.
    The 1981 murders happened in the new shelter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hopefulhiker View Post
    How many does that make for this year? This just makes me sick... My question is if this guy was arrested before how did he get a gun to begin with?
    There are violent crimes in the British Isles perpetrated with handguns. No one can own a handgun there legally. Just what sort of Orwellian existence do you think might be required to elminate handgun crime? Passing a law against mosquitos would be about as successful. We can't keep fruit pickers and drug smugglers out of the US, how would we stop handgun smugglers if they were made illegal?

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