i just started. i have about a dozen or so versions based on the 'penny' stove, playing with different jetting and ways to vary the pressure. the original design can't be beat for what it does and how it works - but i'm looking at adapting it for smaller pots - which has proven tricky. i've got a couple of cool mods that are close - but they don't resemble where i started anymore!
tried an ion last night (was up till 1am burning through a new batch of test stoves and 2 different wind screens) but couldn't get it to jet. disappointing - i used an old tin that i had around - much as i can figure it doesn't get hot enough to create any pressure, or the material wicks away the heat (but i did insulate if from my test surfaces). going to try a slightly different version out of aluminum cans tonight...
addicting. for sure.
like your site, btw. lots of good info there.
wife thinks i'm nuts. i've never been much of a beer drinker. till i started making stoves.
Skids
Insanity: Asking about inseams over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein, (attributed)
yeah, its a tin or something that some brooks proofide came in. (leather cycling saddle conditioner / protectant). thick(ish) metal of some sort.
when i dribble fuel all over the stove and a reflector / splash guard it jets right from the go, then settles down and looks like a sterno burner.
so, i've got a bunch of heiny cans laying around from my penny stove desecrations - will try that later.
well, managed to get 2 cups to boil on about 3/4 oz of fuel with a heiny version of the ion.
its inconsistent though. works well on my snowpeak 1400, but not with the 700. need to tune the windscreen or something, maybe height to pot. seems i have trouble with the narrow pots anyways... might just abandon trying to work with it.
but, i did manage to get 35oz of cold cold tatpwater to small bubble boil with 1oz of fuel with my modded penny stove.
zelph - post pics of that burner - i'm anxious to try a starlyte!
The ion never will jet through the little holes. The vapors follow the path of least resistance, the big hole.
Bmike, you're going so fast with these stove creations it's making my head spin.(que for skids) You'll be passing me up in a day or two
You all have been waiting for this moment. The time has com. Zelph shows all!!!!
Take a peek at what's under the fiberglass cloth
What? What do you mean you can't see under there? Look again
You gotta be kidding me!!! It's under there somewhere. Look one more time
zelph is a stovehiking god. anyone cooking a turkey on a starlyte? its five fills per pound. the stove holds a 10 lb bird well but more is pushing the limits of ,....well pushing.
matthewski
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zelph corp anounced planns to build an alcohol car engine based on the starlyte stove of fame and fourtune. its reported weight is under 100 lbs for the engine and can develope 200 hp. as news of the fuel injected zelphv8 spread, stocks in zcorp jumped to an unpresidented high 7 dollars above the opening of 100 .
matthewski
in related news, zelpoh is a stovemakeing god.
that is all.
matthewski
Skids
Insanity: Asking about inseams over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein, (attributed)
so, the ion is really like the ion drive.
patience, young stovemaker!
got 18 oz of cold cold tapwater to boil... in my snow peak 700 ti, with about 1/2 to 3/4 ounce of fuel.
trick is letting it do its thing. it needs to build up, for sure. slow and steady.
and have a tight fitting wind screen (even though there is no wind in my garage) to reflect the heat back.
i like it, and will have to test it more.
for sure. 24 heinys and a quad of guiness later... all i have is more questions and more ideas!
my stove of choice thus far is a variable pressure stove (similar to a penny design, but without the penny and slightly different jets) that has rolling boiled 35 oz of cold tap water on just under 1.5 oz of fuel. (have to make sure that is repeatable!)
i can get it to do 16 oz of water on about 1/2 oz. in about half the time of the ion.
i'll have to do some benchmarking... and post some pics.
and make sure that these numbers are real. maybe switch to metric...
having fun. lit my whisperlight 2 weeks ago in anticipation of a short overnighter and don't want to use it again... (unless i'm doing some sort of ice-field camping with a large group)
damn. i thought there was some sort of inverted flux capacitor in there or something.
swedish technology! born from jets?
nice. i'll have to try plumbers cloth. i have plenty of fiberglass around.
a large(ish) grommet, with 3/8" aluminum tube sticking halfway into the tin would ease filling... (but might disrupt the flame pattern)
does the shell material matter here? is heat required to vaporize fuel... should i stick with aluminum on this or doesn't it matter?
what is an optimal pot height above the burner?