Was thinking of giving altras a try again. But have had harrowing thrashings to elbows and much more because they were like iceskates in a cpl of their lower number models for me. Blame myself for immediately stepping up to model change because the comfort I enjoyed. Haven't read anything about the 4's through 5's. For wet granite,, And have been reconsidering them for their comfort everywhere else. But looking to walk on some steep granite etc some more.
Hellish days one wouldn't want to recall in those old skates.