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    Quote Originally Posted by HooKooDooKu View Post
    Given that bear cables are provided at every back country campsite, it's rather pathetic when it comes to some of the behavior I've seen.

    Sunday a week ago, I arrived at the LeConte back country shelter to see that 6 other hikers had already setup their gear and had wondered off to checkout the mountain top.
    Left behind just sitting on the "table" was a bottle of HONEY!!!
    Absolutely ridiculous!! Poor bears don't stand a chance against stupid people!! " oh maybe when we come back from our walk a bear will be eating the honey and we can get some pictures." Stupid people!! Back to this poor guy who died in the woods alone . He was from Illinois and only 43 years old very young , very curious about cause of death at such a young age. Rip and condolences to the family.

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    Shenandoah has similar problem with bear hunting dogs. Very common to run across them when hiking the side trails.
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    Am I missing something?
    There is approximately 2 years separating the deceasedís entry into the Park and the surfacing of the news story and the start of this thread.
    In what appears to be a busy part of the Park.
    Something isnít adding up.
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    I think maybe you are looking at the wrong link/death, the one doritotex put up is from 2 years ago different incidents. I could be wrong correct me if I am please but I don’t think they're releasing any info as to how long this guy was at that campsite and cause of death, etc. And they just say remains not how decomposed so I wander how long he was dead before the bear came along. No disrespect please I'm just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HooKooDooKu View Post
    Left behind just sitting on the "table" was a bottle of HONEY!!!

    That sounds like they were intentionally being jackwagons. In the interest of decorum I'll refrain from saying what should happen to them.

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    So the link to the 2 year old article is incorrect in the context of the recent discovery?
    There are two separate stories?
    I guess that makes sense.
    Thanks!
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    So the link to the 2 year old article is incorrect in the context of the recent discovery?


    that is correct....

    that link should have never been involved in this thread....

    two separate incidents....

    the one this thread is referring to just happened Friday night.....

    and not many facts have been put out....

    just the usual arm chair quarterback speculation going on......

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    Thanks TNHiker!
    I thought I was losing it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venchka View Post
    Thanks TNHiker!
    I thought I was losing it!
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    Which might also be two separate incidents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venchka View Post
    There are two separate stories?
    Yeah, two stories, but the have some similarities...

    Both men were found early September (09/09/2018, and 09/11/2020).
    Both bodies had been scavenged by bears.
    Both men were relatively young (i.e. 30 and 43).

    The incident from two years ago was a man who went into the wood to poach ginseng, and according to autopsy reports, died from accidental meth overdose.
    The incident from Friday appear to be a solo camper {unoccupied tent was discovered}, but the cause of death is unknown.

    The incident from 2 years ago took almost 5 months for the autopsy report to be released.
    So it might be months before we hear any reports on the cause of death for the recent incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HooKooDooKu View Post
    Yeah, two stories, but the have some similarities...

    Both men were found early September (09/09/2018, and 09/11/2020).
    Both bodies had been scavenged by bears.
    Both men were relatively young (i.e. 30 and 43).

    The incident from two years ago was a man who went into the wood to poach ginseng, and according to autopsy reports, died from accidental meth overdose.
    The incident from Friday appear to be a solo camper {unoccupied tent was discovered}, but the cause of death is unknown.

    The incident from 2 years ago took almost 5 months for the autopsy report to be released.
    So it might be months before we hear any reports on the cause of death for the recent incident.
    I wonder if the timing of the incidents may have more to do with the bears "fattening up" for the coming winter. Maybe get a little more aggressive about packing on the weight?
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    I know that’s the only time I ever eat people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HankIV View Post
    I know that’s the only time I ever eat people.
    Only around Halloween time for me .

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    An article that discusses both bear situations:

    https://www.nationalparkstraveler.or...utopsy-results
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    Quote Originally Posted by JNI64 View Post
    Only around Halloween time for me .
    Which reminds me I'm looking for a overweight hiking partner for a week long section hike the end of October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNI64 View Post
    Which reminds me I'm looking for a overweight hiking partner for a week long section hike the end of October.
    Oooo Ooooo Ooooo... Pick Me! Pick Me!

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    I know the autopsy will take a while but any chance of info like if there appeared to be any signs of a fight/struggle or claw marks on tent/pack or anything like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LazyLightning View Post
    I know the autopsy will take a while but any chance of info like if there appeared to be any signs of a fight/struggle or claw marks on tent/pack or anything like that?


    i have a feeling this will come out in the investigation.........

    which will take a while....

    sadly, i've lost all my media connections and can't really ask around.....

    but, based on how the Park has responded in the past, this will take a little bit to get out...

    since it's (and it might be but i havent had time to check around) not out just yet...

    i would think that the Park would put it out sorta more quickly than the autopsy will take a bit and i
    would think they would want to settle some of the public's fear and rumors down...

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    Yeah, so being sensitive to my wording. It's safe to assume that we all agree It's better he somehow unfortunately fell to his demise naturally, as opposed to a bear attack?. All the stupid things people do out there and you never hear of a black bear killing and mauling, which by the way shows a huge amount of discipline on their behalf.
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