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    Default BMT difficulty vs AT/Pinhoti

    I am planning on doing the BMT in November rather than my original plan of the Ouachita Trail. I ended up with more time off because of cancelled trips so the BMT works out as a better option this year. I am trying to set a loose plan for mileage as I am considering:
    Doing no resupply NOBO, having a local friend drop off my SOBO resupply(if I yo-yo)
    A yo-yo of the trail with minimal resupply
    What kind of mileage should I realistically expect? AT/Pinhoti runs anywhere from 20 - high 30 mpd when I go out. I am considering trying to push 40mpd(a 7 day thru) but I don't want to pack light on food and end up short in the Smokies.
    AT: 471 mi

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    IMO, your biggest challenge is going to be navigation, especially if the trail hasn’t had a lot of maintenance recently. Not every area is blazed and it isn’t as well trod as the AT...plus there’s a fair amount of road walking and figuring out where to get back on trail. I’ve hiked it in all seasons and in November, had trouble seeing the trail with all the leaf litter. You have to really pay attention, definitely not like the AT in that respect.

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    Leonidas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traffic Jam View Post
    IMO, your biggest challenge is going to be navigation, especially if the trail hasn’t had a lot of maintenance recently. Not every area is blazed and it isn’t as well trod as the AT...plus there’s a fair amount of road walking and figuring out where to get back on trail. I’ve hiked it in all seasons and in November, had trouble seeing the trail with all the leaf litter. You have to really pay attention, definitely not like the AT in that respect.
    Gotcha, the Pinhoti is similar then in that regard. Guthook saved my bacon at least twice. I have Sgt. Rocks guide and the Guthook map for the trail and not afraid to use them. The maintenance is definitely a concern though, that has slowed me down on the Pinhoti before. Appreciate the thoughts!
    AT: 471 mi

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    I have been wondering these things as well, I will be starting both this winter and was curious of the things above as well as terrain comparison. I have only done about 80 miles of the BMT and that was almost 10 years ago.
    Trail Miles: 3,918.6 - AT Trips: 70
    AT Map 1 Completion: 2004.8 - AT Map 2 Completion: 265.0

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    Leonidas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit McCrae View Post
    I have been wondering these things as well, I will be starting both this winter and was curious of the things above as well as terrain comparison. I have only done about 80 miles of the BMT and that was almost 10 years ago.
    Let me know if you need any Pinhoti info as I can provide it or point you in the direction of someone who can usually. I had planned on doing the 72.1 miles from the Pinhoti Northern Terminus to Springer in 2018 but the flooding around Dalton ended up pulling me off trail for safety reasons.
    I know that you know Ron Brown, he has shuttled me several times for Pinhoti hikes, one or two of those times was the first time he had ever been to some of the Pinhoti trailheads.
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    Pinhoti Trail '18-19'

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    Did the BMT-AT loop right from our front door a few years ago. Our last journal entry contrasts the BMT and AT, so it might provide some of the answers you are seeking: https://www.trailjournals.com/journal/10946

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    Royalusa is spot on. You should be able to push the same mileage. Itís not that different save for the rare overgrown spot and perhaps some longer stretches without water. On average itís flatter than the southern AT.

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    I’ve done the Pinhoti and a bit over half of the BMT (none of the smokies) and the biggest factor I can think of in terms of impact on mileage is the sheer number of blowdowns on the BMT compared to the Pinhoti. In my experience, expect more on the BMT. Like, a lot more. BMT also gets more overgrown in stretches than the Pinhoti but that may not be a factor in November. I struggled with navigation in spots on the BMT but with Guthooks you should be fine. Overall I’d say you should be able to approach your regular mileage, maybe hit it depending on trail conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by royalusa View Post
    Did the BMT-AT loop right from our front door a few years ago. Our last journal entry contrasts the BMT and AT, so it might provide some of the answers you are seeking: https://www.trailjournals.com/journal/10946
    Awesome, I will check that out!

    Quote Originally Posted by Linesman View Post
    Royalusa is spot on. You should be able to push the same mileage. It’s not that different save for the rare overgrown spot and perhaps some longer stretches without water. On average it’s flatter than the southern AT.
    Appreciate it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Slugg View Post
    I’ve done the Pinhoti and a bit over half of the BMT (none of the smokies) and the biggest factor I can think of in terms of impact on mileage is the sheer number of blowdowns on the BMT compared to the Pinhoti. In my experience, expect more on the BMT. Like, a lot more. BMT also gets more overgrown in stretches than the Pinhoti but that may not be a factor in November. I struggled with navigation in spots on the BMT but with Guthooks you should be fine. Overall I’d say you should be able to approach your regular mileage, maybe hit it depending on trail conditions.
    Good to know, I have had stretches of the Pinhoti with grass/weeds/thorns up to my shoulders and I'm 6'2". Those were in July/August I think on one trip and September on another.
    AT: 471 mi

    Pinhoti Trail '18-19'

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