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    Default Bear Hunting in Georgia/North Carolina OCT 24 2019

    Just finished a Hike from Dick's Gap to Franklin. Encountered lost hunting dogs which had been in the woods for a week. Emaciated, poor poor shape. Good news a female hound was returned to its owner. Good news I hope is that a male hound was escorted by a hiker to Dick's Gap, hopefully made it and is now recovering at a Humane Society shelter. Next trip you might want to bring some kibble. Those dogs need all the help you can give them. Sad part you encounter them in the middle of nowhere and it is a long walk to a place you can hand them off. Lots of hunters at the Gaps. Dogs barking in the distance.

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    I'm not sure of the statutes, and the ethics are sticky, but hunting dogs are legally not strays and if you engage them there can be legal ramifications. The law is on the dog owner's side.
    One of the nasty little things that I found out a few years ago when one followed me for a couple of miles on the Foothills Trail is that Garmin, so beloved by many, makes the GPS trackers for the hunting dogs. I haven't been too much of a fan of them since.

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    I'm not sure feeding is a good idea because the dog will follow you, possibly going in the opposite direction from where it needs to go. Most are trained to find a road and their blankie, when lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Bumpy View Post
    Garmin, so beloved by many, makes the GPS trackers for the hunting dogs. I haven't been too much of a fan of them since.
    This summer I saw two lost hunting dogs on the trail and wished the owners had put GPS trackers on them. Is it better if they are harder to find??

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    Default Bear Hunting in Georgia/North Carolina OCT 24 2019

    FWIW...You can't legally hunt bears with dogs in North Georgia.

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    I came across a lost bear dog close to my home in VA a few months ago. What a sweet dog. She followed me, and when I took a break, she circled the perimeter of where I sat down before coming back to sit next to me. She loved all the attention I gave her. What a sweet sweet girl. She followed me all the way down the mountain where we met up with her owner. She was back into her cage in the back of the truck to hunt bears another day.
    It is what it is.

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    Stray hunting dogs are the bane of my backpacking life in the mountains of TN and NC. If a normal person left their pets in the middle of nowhere for days at a time they'd be cited by authorities. Hunters get away with "abandoning" their dogs---without supervision---all the time. It's the Grand Southern Tradition of bear hunting. These dogs pee on my pack, steal my food, jump into the tent and claw up gear---and claw up the outside of the tent fly. Where are their owners? In their pickup trucks drinking hot coffee.

    I just got back from a trip a couple days ago and saw a pitiful sight---bear hunters parked on a road and waiting for their dogs to chase a bear up to them so they could shoot it right off the road---but this is just my opinion as I did not see such a thing actually happen. While I was waiting for my ride out 5 or 6 loud shots went off and they bagged something---as the gunshots were very loud.

    Hunting from the road should not be legal. Heck, using dogs to hunt bear should not be legal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipi Walter View Post
    Hunting from the road should not be legal
    Hunting from the road is illegal in GA, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it is illegal in most states. But I wouldn’t confront a hunter carrying a gun about it.

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    this kind of hunting not only is not ethical, it is pitiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpburdelljr View Post
    Hunting from the road is illegal in GA, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it is illegal in most states. But I wouldn’t confront a hunter carrying a gun about it.
    As I was waiting for my shuttle ride I took several pics of the guys and one of them really gave me the stank eye.

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    Angry That photo shows something CLEARLY illegal

    Hunting from the road should not be legal
    It isn't in Georgia.
    http://forum.gon.com/threads/hunting...ic-road.81627/
    http://www.eregulations.com/georgia/...a-regulations/
    Unlawful Activities on WMAs
    Hunting within 50 yards of any road opened for vehicular access. (Possession of a loaded firearm within 50 yards of a road opened for vehicular access is considered hunting.)
    Sadly, hunters have long developed a culture of "no snitching" when it comes to illegal activities. Don't count on any other hunter to report these criminals to local authorities.

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    Typically you have to be so many feet/yards from a road to hunt. I'm not against hunters but they must hunt within the law. I came across a lost hunting dog at Cooper Gap once. This was not in season. I don't recall completely but I think I called the number on the collar and the person who answer let the owner know. But as I recall a ranger was nearby and came by and was keenly interested in talking to the owner.

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    Not sure about Georgia but in my area dogs are also used for raccoon hunting. Not all hunters with dogs are hunting bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Joe View Post
    Typically you have to be so many feet/yards from a road to hunt. I'm not against hunters but they must hunt within the law. I came across a lost hunting dog at Cooper Gap once. This was not in season. I don't recall completely but I think I called the number on the collar and the person who answer let the owner know. But as I recall a ranger was nearby and came by and was keenly interested in talking to the owner.
    It's not unusual in North Carolina to see hunting dogs in the woods when hunting season(s) are not in. It's part of the dogs training and the hunters I've talked to do it mostly because they like to hear the dogs hunting. A couple of years ago, just off the Blue Ridge Parkway, I talked to some bear hunters parked on the side of the road listening to their dogs. I asked how they knew when the dogs were running a bear toward them so they could shoot the bear and they all started laughing. One of them told me that a dog that could do that would be priceless and it was mostly just luck that brought the bear close enough to the road to be shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Old Chief View Post
    It's not unusual in North Carolina to see hunting dogs in the woods when hunting season(s) are not in. It's part of the dogs training and the hunters I've talked to do it mostly because they like to hear the dogs hunting.
    I think that for a lot of Coon hunters the main point is to sit around the fire drinking, and discussing the “voices” of the various dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mockernut View Post
    FWIW...You can't legally hunt bears with dogs in North Georgia.
    Bear hunting with hounds became legal in GA beginning this season on two WMAs that are very close to or actually border the AT. These were quota hunts with a small number of hunters allowed. It'll happen again next season as well. After that, it'll be up too the GA Legislature if it continues or not. We'll see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipi Walter View Post
    Stray hunting dogs are the bane of my backpacking life in the mountains of TN and NC. If a normal person left their pets in the middle of nowhere for days at a time they'd be cited by authorities. Hunters get away with "abandoning" their dogs---without supervision---all the time. It's the Grand Southern Tradition of bear hunting. These dogs pee on my pack, steal my food, jump into the tent and claw up gear---and claw up the outside of the tent fly. Where are their owners? In their pickup trucks drinking hot coffee.

    I just got back from a trip a couple days ago and saw a pitiful sight---bear hunters parked on a road and waiting for their dogs to chase a bear up to them so they could shoot it right off the road. In fact, while I was waiting for my ride out 5 or 6 loud shots went off and they bagged something.

    Hunting from the road should not be legal. Heck, using dogs to hunt bear should not be legal.

    I see this photo and arrive at a somewhat different conclusion. What I see are bear hunters waiting for their dogs to tree or bay a bear, at which point they will pitch off the road and walk to where the dogs are and have a look. They may shoot. They may not. Either way, they'll have to leash the dogs and walk them back to the truck.

    Bear dogs don't herd bears to their handlers. The bears either tree or bay at their sole discretion and the hunters must then go to the bears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stikbow View Post
    I see this photo and arrive at a somewhat different conclusion. What I see are bear hunters waiting for their dogs to tree or bay a bear, at which point they will pitch off the road and walk to where the dogs are and have a look. They may shoot. They may not. Either way, they'll have to leash the dogs and walk them back to the truck.

    Bear dogs don't herd bears to their handlers. The bears either tree or bay at their sole discretion and the hunters must then go to the bears.
    Doesn't explain why I heard 6 loud rifle shots from the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipi Walter View Post
    Doesn't explain why I heard 6 loud rifle shots from the road.
    I get what you're saying. But, hearing the shots from the road doesn't mean that the shooters were hunting/shooting from the road. I do understand that not all hunters abide by the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipi Walter View Post
    Doesn't explain why I heard 6 loud rifle shots from the road.
    There are lot of possible explanations, poaching is only one of them.

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