Hitler was probably a ENFJ---"charismatic and inspiring leaders, able to mesmerize their listeners." Oh, and bat crazy genocidal murders. Left that part out.
Hitler was probably a ENFJ---"charismatic and inspiring leaders, able to mesmerize their listeners." Oh, and bat crazy genocidal murders. Left that part out.
I somewhat disagree. If I were typed prior to entering the career that I chose, there’s no doubt it would be the last on the list. I’m a shy, quiet, follower-type who usually defers to others. Yet, I was able to learn the skills needed for my job which includes interacting with the public and being an aggressive leader who is often in charge of life and death situations. The nice thing about learning those skills and behaviors is that it balances out my passive personality traits.
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The funniest thing was in leadership training courses.<br>
When solving problems in groups<br>
Where if you made a mistake , wrong first move ,there was no recovering from it<br>
Certain strong personality types would coerce the rest of their group into doing what they wanted first<br>
And then the group failed<br>
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Where the groups that work together and got everybody's input and were slower to action succeeded.
That's my assessment in that my values and mood are subject to change as new info becomes part of my understanding. Too often the questions were phrased that forced me into a choice that not always reflected my worldview nor the way I process it. I have no need to constantly rate things statically including my personality into neatly understood singular personalities. I recognize many of those personality definitions in myself at various times and under varying situations.
You're right about polarized dichotomies not representative of a physical reality which I struggled mightily, but it goes beyond the physical reality. The test is formulated and phrased in a way that forces me to accept a reality, a worldview perception, and more importantly a mental processing of the world that I don't personally always recognize. I've actually tried to intentionally get away from thinking and perceiving rigidly along lines of polarized dichotomies. It stinks to me. It's a limiting way to perceive and process reality. It's a cause of much conflict analagous to tribal thinking and identity politics, identity tests, etc.
Slugg is correct. Psychologists have voiced problems, limitations, and the unreliability with the Meyers Briggs test. Some still recognize it as having some worth... not for myself or others who don't process and perceive the world along polarized dichotomies. It's not simply individuals the test comes to erroneous limiting conclusions but entire cultures, spiritual disciplines, etc.
Tests like this force people into nice neat easier to analyze categorical boxes.
TU Idsailor for posting the link.
i'm a blue-blazer. a contrarian. no type here
Somewhere in one of the hiking books on my shelf there is a statistic that about 60% of society is "E" (extrovert) and 40% I (introvert) but that the ratio on the trail is more than flipped. More than 2/3rd of long distance hikers are reportedly introverts. I recall the passage well, as the author then describes some extroverts on the trail - a group marching into a shelter site late at night loudly singing "When the Saints Go Marching In."
I'm Ravenclaw.
"Study hard what interests you the most in the most undisciplined, irreverent and original manner possible." -Feynman
This an another example of dichotomous thinking in an attempt to place people into and an either or two types of personalities. True false black white on off conservative right liberal left. The reality is the world isn't always defined like this. Ir comes from a limited way of thinking about things...and it very often limits potential, creativity, and innovation.
A textbook example is one my nieces was told by a mathematics teacher in her early H.S. years "people are either good or bad at math." She was struggling with her math grades when she was told this. She started to believe she was on of those "bad" at math. She had little aptitude for math. If she had believed that going through life with that limiting belief that would have become an excuse for not optimally applying herself at math education. She's now a sophomore at Auburn as a straight A mathematics student pursing a mathematics degree and wants to go to MIT for Advanced Applied Mathematics eventually seeking a career with NASA. Imagine if she had continued believing the limiting mindset label(categorization) that the HS mathematics teacher tried saddling her? I wonder how many other people go through life with limiting non empowering categorization because some "authority" ' told them this is the way you are?
Here's some more:
A thru hike is a vacation.
Thru hikes are selfish.
I'm too ??? to thru hike.
Younger generations are so entitled.
Younger people are irresponsible.
Getting older means ???
[QUOTE=tdoczi;2232833]whoever came up with those stats wasnt on the AT in the middle of the thru hiker bubble.
that or the extroverts would only be 1/6th otherwise.[/QUOT
The introverts hike elsewhere...at least I do. I’ve never hiked on the AT during “thru hiker season.”
ISTP, same as Amelia Earhardt and Lance Armstrong, among other great explorers and athletes.
Woody Allen? Wait a minute!
I think there might be some degree of confusion here regarding this subject. Just as people may be right vs left handed, it doesn't mean that they are exclusively one way or the other. Such as when typing a post here in this forum, everyone has elements of all psychological types and use and display elements of all of them. It's more just a preference as to which way you tend to lean. And in most people, it's no where near as dominant as the example of being right vs left handed. Most of us are much closer to ambidextrous psychologically than we are with our physical handedness.
During my psych rotation, everyone in the class had to come up with a question as an exercise for learning about each other. My question was, which personality disorder fits you best? Ha ha! It was interesting...people like being able to identify and label themselves, even if the label carries a negative/outside social norms connotation.
[QUOTE=Traffic Jam;2232852] unfortunately the times when i can go hike for a week means dealing with them if I happen to want a hike where they are.
that and theyve gotten harder to avoid. i thought i was going on a hike safely behind the bubble last year and couldnt have been more off.
I was surprised how incredibly accurate the test described me(ESTJ). It was even a little creepy lol
Trail Miles: 4,980.5
AT Map 1: Complete 2013-2021
Sheltowee Trace: Complete 2020-2023
Pinhoti Trail: Complete 2023-2024
Foothills Trail: 47.9
AT Map 2: 279.4
BMT: 52.7
CDT: 85.4