coming Spring 2019 - Dyneema tent from a major manufacturer

[C4web88]

I just read on outsideonline.com that Big Agnes will be coming out with a 1-pound Dyneema free-standing tent in 2019.

From what I understand, they're using .34 oz DCF for the fly and .51 oz for the bathtub......seems pretty sketchy to use this on a thru anything longer than a weekend as that's pretty thin material, even for DCF on parts of the shelter that can take a beating. Pretty steep costs at $800+, prob going to stick with cottage stuff till they prove worthy and come down in price a bit. Interesting they're bring DCF to bigbox stores though.

[MtDoraDave]

Tarptent just announced their new Stratospire Li. (DCF)
It's got a 45" wide floor, so they're calling it a two person tent, and I think it's around 27 oz, including stakes and stuff sack.
...I think it's a .51 fly and a 1.0 bathtub.
No price yet.

[MtDoraDave]

Tarptent just announced their new Stratospire Li. (DCF)
It's got a 45" wide floor, so they're calling it a two person tent, and I think it's around 27 oz, including stakes and stuff sack.
...I think it's a .51 fly and a 1.0 bathtub.
No price yet.

P.S.
The 45" wide floor is wider than their SS1 and narrower than their SS2.

[Kerosene]

Perhaps we should start a movement. Bombard them with requests for 24” widths in all lengths and models.
A quick look at the Exped catalog reveals numerous wide standard length models.
Wayne

There are instructions on how to take a long/wide pad NeoAir and cut it down to a short/wide, with only 1-2 oz penalty from a short/narrow. I agree, a 20" width just doesn't allow me to rest on my back, and I'm not that big a person.

[Venchka]

There are instructions on how to take a long/wide pad NeoAir and cut it down to a short/wide, with only 1-2 oz penalty from a short/narrow. I agree, a 20" width just doesn't allow me to rest on my back, and I'm not that big a person.

I’m not saying that you’re dumb.
But cutting up a perfectly good air mattress is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. As dumb as cutting up a Long sleeping bag to remove one baffle to make it a regular length bag.
I’ve seen both discussed here at WhiteBlaze.
I certainly wouldn’t cut 6” off of my Xtherm Large to make it a Wide Normal. My first 3 air mattresses were Shorts. I’m not going back there either.
I’ll carry an extra ounce or three for the level of comfort that I have.
Wayne

[HooKooDooKu]

I’m not saying that you’re dumb.
But cutting up a perfectly good air mattress is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. As dumb as cutting up a Long sleeping bag to remove one baffle to make it a regular length bag.
I’ve seen both discussed here at WhiteBlaze.
I certainly wouldn’t cut 6” off of my Xtherm Large to make it a Wide Normal. My first 3 air mattresses were Shorts. I’m not going back there either.
I’ll carry an extra ounce or three for the level of comfort that I have.
Wayne

If someone has the guts to cut into a $200 pad to better suit their purpose... more power to them.
I don't understand why Therm-a-rest doens't come out with a Wide/Standard model given how much that comes up (if you want wide, you MUST get a long).

[Venchka]

True. We are free to do as we please with our stuff.
I just ran the numbers. 20 ounces divided by 77 inches = 0.26 ounces per inch. Given the taper and rounded end of the last 6 inches, I wouldn't expect the removed portion to weigh more than an ounce.
So, we have the answer: A Wide Standard length Xtherm doesn't save enough weight to justify another model in the inventory.
A $240 pad. I'm thankful I bought mine on deep discount from REI when I did.
Wayne

[DuneElliot]

Tarptent just announced their new Stratospire Li. (DCF)
It's got a 45" wide floor, so they're calling it a two person tent, and I think it's around 27 oz, including stakes and stuff sack.
...I think it's a .51 fly and a 1.0 bathtub.
No price yet.

Now THAT is a tent I've been waiting to see...I always said I'd love to own a Stratospire in DCF as I love the modularity of the design, just hate silnylon.

[Venchka]

Now THAT is a tent I've been waiting to see...I always said I'd love to own a Stratospire in DCF as I love the modularity of the design, just hate silnylon.

What problems do you have with silnylon?
Before buying my StratoSpire 1 (you might remember it from the WRR trip, I read all of the silnylon sagging horror stories here and elsewhere on the internet. The StratoSpire 1 has failed to exhibit ANY of the complaints I feared. The tent remains drum tight after wild temperature changes and/or several hours of rain.
I really enjoyed using the 20 ounce rain fly alone in Wyoming.
Henry builds good stuff!
Wayne