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    Spent the night at Iron Mtn Shelter. I think his first night that wasn't at a trail head. 49.2 mile yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    "discussion" involves pros and cons - sounds like you feel opinions that you do not agree with should be excluded
    If that were the case, I am well acquainted with the "ignore" function. As was stated while I was on vacation, this sub-section has a regular influx of "haters" every time someone attempts an FKT.
    AT: 274.5 mi

    Pinhoti Trail: 107.7 mi

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    Really frustrating that his tracking site doesn't say what day he's on.
    And very interesting that his mileage is getting compared more to Joe than Scott.

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    He started on May 30 (about 6 AM) so 6 AM on Sunday June 10th will be the end of day 11 (beginning of day 12). His last tracking location for day 11 is Partnership shelter which only gave him 39.2 miles for the day. This is the same place Stringbean was at on day 11 so he lost all of his lead he had. Didn't look like there was a weather problem in SE VA today.

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    The rain should be hitting there about now or maybe yesterday. I was in Shenandoah through Friday and that's what people were saying.

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    I'm part of the team working on planning and logistics effort for Harvey's journey and have enjoyed reading the conversation thus far. As of today (6/10), Harvey is 5.7 miles ahead of where Joe spent the night at the end of day 12. The rough patch on day 11 (he spent the night at VA 16 - 533.7 miles) was a combination of non-weather related factors, but after some additional rest, day 12 was a 50.6 mile day (VA 615 - 584.3).

    I'm happy to answer questions but please note that I'm speaking only for myself..

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    I've been charting his progress. My spreadsheet is set up to compare progress to Stringbean. Any thought as to what the best benchmark is?

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    We looked at data from the four previous record holders - Jen Pharr-Davis, Jurek, Meltzer, and Stringbean. We're keeping an eye on the progress against all four, though obviously Stringbean is the priority. As Harvey noted in his initial post on FastestKnownTime.com, we're monitoring the records for overall, fastest supported, and fastest NOBO in descending order. One of the nice things about having two records from SOBO and two records from NOBO is that it allows us to see what days are tough days regardless of which direction you're going and how fresh you are. Deep mud sucks (literally) no matter when or how you run into it.

    In additional to the daily and overall comparisons, we're also looking at a 3 day rolling comparison (so how did Stringbean do on days 13, 14, and 15 for instance) to try to balance out the impact of a single good/bad day.

    This early on, we're not feeding Harvey much information about how where he is in relation to Stringbean, but once the days start to creep up into the mid-20s, I expect we'll switch over to more of a "Stringbean did xx miles, so you need to do xx miles or even better xx+1 miles" type of situation.

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    Here's the current progress against Stringbean and Jurek. The "3 day average" column refers to Stringbean's average for that day, and the next two days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravisRex View Post
    we're monitoring the records for...fastest NOBO
    Is this a detail people are going to start caring about now that more pure runners are coming into FKTs?
    Were Joe and Joey not racing for the same thing anymore?

    I blame Comrades.

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    We are tracking it because that's the way the times are listed on fastestknowntime.com. The primary focus is the overall FKT. No one on the team wants to see additional modifiers (here's the FKT that started on a Monday, here's the FKT for people whose name starts with the letter B). But since we're tracking against one thing already there's little added effort to track against two or three other benchmarks.

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    Awesome, thanks for the updates

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    Looks like a bit of a shortcut, or a detour, or an anomaly, or a glitch, or....

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCNC View Post
    Looks like a bit of a shortcut, or a detour, or an anomaly, or a glitch, or....

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    Wasn't there a reroute just north of Pearisburg?

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    Yes, the trail on the map is from before the reroute. Harvey went the right way.
    It's all good in the woods.

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    We were using an older mapping file from the ATC that included the "old" route. We were able to obtain a new "AT Line" file from the National Park Service GIS server and were able to apply the changes which should soon be reflected on the RoadiD tracking site. Using the "test" version of the tracking site, we confirmed that his travel matches the route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TravisRex View Post
    We are tracking it because that's the way the times are listed on fastestknowntime.com. The primary focus is the overall FKT. No one on the team wants to see additional modifiers (here's the FKT that started on a Monday, here's the FKT for people whose name starts with the letter B). But since we're tracking against one thing already there's little added effort to track against two or three other benchmarks.
    It's always been qualified which direction someone went but was more of a "so you know" than an official distinction. Interesting that they've now separated the times.
    I hope I don't come across like I'm picking on you at all. The last couple years have just seen a lot of people new to FKTs who don't seem to really understand or want to. It hurts every time I hear "unsupported AT record."
    And I can already see people saying how Joe doesn't have his record any more were Harvey to beat his time.
    It hurts.

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    He seems to have had another bad day yesterday. Now about 17 miles behind Stringbean.

    Harvey StringBean
    Day Start Location Total Miles Day Miles Location Total Miles Day Miles Ahead of Pace
    0 Springer Mtn/AT Southern Terminus 0.0 Springer Mtn/AT Southern Terminus 0.0
    1 Unicoi Gap/GA Hwy 75 52.3 52.3 Low Gap Shelter 42.6 42.6 9.7
    2 Rock Gap Shelter/USFS Rd 67 105.4 53.1 Standing Indian Shelter 85.7 43.1 19.7
    3 Stecoah Gap/NC Hwy 143 150.3 44.9 Nantahala, NC/US Hwy 19/74 136.5 50.8 13.8
    4 Clingmans Dome Tower 199.6 49.3 Spence Field Shelter/Eagle Creek Trail 183.3 46.8 16.3
    5 Davenport Gap/NC Hwy 32 238.7 39.1 Cosby Knob Shelter 230.7 47.4 8.0
    6 Log Cabin Rd 290.8 52.1 Hot Springs, NC/NC Hwy 209 274.3 43.6 16.5
    7 Spivey Gap/US Hwy 19W 332.8 42.0 Bald Mtn Shelter 327.0 52.7 5.8
    8 Roan Mountain, TN/US Hwy 19E 394.8 62.0 Roan High Knob Shelter 378.5 51.5 16.3
    9 Iron Mtn Shelter 444.0 49.2 Watauga Lake Shelter 430.0 51.5 14.0
    10 Elk Garden/VA Rd 600 494.3 50.3 Saunders Shelter 479.6 49.6 14.7
    11 Partnership Shelter/VA Hwy 16 533.5 39.2 Partnership Shelter/VA Hwy 16 533.5 53.9 0.0
    12 Laurel Creek/VA Rd 615 584.3 50.8 Jenkins Shelter/Hunting Camp Creek 579.9 46.4 4.4
    13 Pearisburg, VA/VA Hwy 100 636.5 52.2 Cross Ave/VA Rd 793 635.5 55.6 1.0
    14 Rocky Gap/VA Rd 601 671.3 34.8 Craig Creek/VA Rd 621 688.3 52.8 -17.0

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    If he follows the same pattern as Jurek(nobo), he will have some stellar days followed by some very average says down south, kill it in the Mid-Atlantic, and then try to eek it out up north. So, as long as he can come out of the South healthy and somewhat near pace, it will still be on.

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    But he had another low mile day yesterday. He's now about 20 miles behind Stringbean's pace.

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