Designing a Better Bear Canister

[nsherry61]

Not really adding much value to this thread here, but anybody remember this: http://rutalocura.com/palisade.html

Actually, I think it may add a lot. It offers an example of thinking outside of the box (or the canister in this case), which is pretty important if one wants to figure out an alternative that is lighter and cheaper and bigger and other good things we want. I wonder what the level of effectiveness of that said electrified stuff sack was/is. We certainly use electric fences to keep bears out of food cashes in some areas.

Maybe we need to come up with a stuff sack with out outside surface that is saturated in cayenne pepper? Cheap, light, versatile, and very likely highly effective, at least for a little while.

Heck, an Alaskan hunting guide I worked with years ago, guided down near the McNeil river area (the highest grizzly population density in the world). After he and/or his client made a kill (usually moose) it might take a couple days to pack all the meat out from the kill site to the exit point. He had very good success covering the carcass in a tarp and then peppering the tarp with vast quantities of pepper and urinating around the edges.

[Kittyslayer]

BTW, I tried... multiple times. It never opened, just "churned" and "churned."

Hopefully that's what the bear says too.

[BuckeyeBill]

What I can't understand is, how a canister can keep a bear from getting your food, when that same bear can rip the door off a car to get inside?

[Feral Bill]

What I can't understand is, how a canister can keep a bear from getting your food, when that same bear can rip the door off a car to get inside?

It can get a grip on the car door.

[BuckeyeBill]

OK, I forgot those claws are some pretty strong hooks. Does insurance cover a bear attack or do they consider it an act of God?

[HooKooDooKu]

OK, I forgot those claws are some pretty strong hooks. Does insurance cover a bear attack or do they consider it an act of God?

Isn't insurance supposed to cover acts of God?

[shelb]

Thank you for working on improving the hiking experience!

[Feral Bill]

Isn't insurance supposed to cover acts of God?

For the religious, isn't everything an act of God?

[HikerHarry]

Electrify the canister!

[garyp]

I put reflective tape all over mine so I can find it at a distance. Bears in the Sierra learned to leave the barricades and the bvk’s alone due to how hard they were to get into. With enough time a bear can get into almost anything though.

[HooKooDooKu]

Electrify the canister!

https://modernhiker.com/electric-bear-canisters/

[MuddyWaters]

https://modernhiker.com/electric-bear-canisters/

How would you pick it up?

Obviously you got to touch it in the right places for that to work.

Once upon a time many many years ago I bought a shock collar for a dog that we wanted to keep off of our new back deck and screened porch. I ran the tx wire underneath the ground on the perimeter of the deck and I also ran one around inside of the porch underneath the carpet.

Complete failure.

Dog quickly learned to allow himself to be shocked lightly until the collar went dead then he did what he wanted.

Things like this have potential. But also have increased modes for failure versus a conventional canister. Like dead batteries. Or not on. Or batteries not working in cold weather. What happens when it gets wet?.

The park authorities do not give a rat's ass what a canister weighs, as there are already acceptable Solutions out there. Only how reliable it is. This is taking it down a notch. There's enough failures with people who can't even manage to close a canister.

[HikerHarry]

https://modernhiker.com/electric-bear-canisters/

Well shoot, there goes my idea!

[Leo L.]

Our neighbour has a flock of goats fenced off by a professional electric fence.
We have a nice garden with lots of tasty greens.
As soon as the garden looks greener to the goats than their fenced pasture, they are in our garden - no matter how high the fence and the voltage therein.

Can't imagine that an electrical protection for a bear canister could ever work as effectively as a professional fence would - and then it still would fail if it came to goats.
Are your bears less clever than goats? I doubt.