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    Khike
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    Default Need new raingear....

    Hello All, My old Mountain Hardwear raingear, 29 oz total, made of Conduit Silk, has pooped the bed. I've noticed that the new gear, about the same price, is considerably lighter. I've been looking at Patagonia Torrentshell, Montbell Rain Trekker, of course, the OR Helium 2 and the Precip. I use my rain gear for keeping warm in camp, mostly. I use it sailing, in the rain. I'm a poncho man ,on the trail. I'm thinking either the Patagonia, 22 oz total or the Montbell, 21 oz total. I like the features and the wgt is better than my old gear. But I can hear those 6 oz jackets and 3 oz pants calling out to me! My base wgt, pack and everything, except food and water is 13 lbs. Add 7 lbs of food and 5 of water and we are talking 25lbs. I'm sure I can find a couple of more lbs to put in my ULA Circuit. Just don't seem like those light jackets would last. What say you? I know this has been beat to death, I've read all the posts. I'm thinking of a little more durability. Seems the fabrics have come a long way in ten years. I'm listening.... Kevin

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    If could afford it, I'd go with a cuben fiber rain suit from Zpacks.
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    Khike
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    Ouch! They are proud of that bad boy, ain't they? Kevin

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    Frogg Toggs or Zpacks or HMG.

    Everything in between has more negatives than positives

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    I just got a Rab Downpour Jacket in the mail. Haven't put it on the trail yet, but the build looks solid. I got it because I didn't want to give up having pockets and it also has pit zips and it can be adjusted around the cuffs and head. Comes in around 11oz. Reviews of the material (Pertex 2.5+) give it good waterproof characteristics, but it can wear down over time. But, I don't live in a rainy area and like you, it will be used for heat retention as much as for rain wear. Again, hasn't seen the trail yet, but Rab is a solid company, and there are several others that use the Pertex 2.5+ material.

    Honestly, I think you go big with HMG or Zpacks, roll the dice on a cheap frogg toggs, or if you go in between pick the one with the colors you like, a coupon, and a good warranty.

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    For sailing don't worry about weight. Sturdy coated gear is fine. Better really, and pretty cheap. For in camp, a wind shirt and light rain pants are fine for cold. Add the poncho (or Packa) for rain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khike View Post
    Hello All, My old Mountain Hardwear raingear, 29 oz total, made of Conduit Silk, has pooped the bed. I've noticed that the new gear, about the same price, is considerably lighter. I've been looking at Patagonia Torrentshell, Montbell Rain Trekker, of course, the OR Helium 2 and the Precip. I use my rain gear for keeping warm in camp, mostly. I use it sailing, in the rain. I'm a poncho man ,on the trail. I'm thinking either the Patagonia, 22 oz total or the Montbell, 21 oz total. I like the features and the wgt is better than my old gear. But I can hear those 6 oz jackets and 3 oz pants calling out to me! My base wgt, pack and everything, except food and water is 13 lbs. Add 7 lbs of food and 5 of water and we are talking 25lbs. I'm sure I can find a couple of more lbs to put in my ULA Circuit. Just don't seem like those light jackets would last. What say you? I know this has been beat to death, I've read all the posts. I'm thinking of a little more durability. Seems the fabrics have come a long way in ten years. I'm listening.... Kevin
    My 2012 ZPacks cuben rain jacket is still going strong. Iíve worn it every year since.


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    Check out the Montbell rain jackets

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    I mostly use my Frogg Toggs for warmth in camp as wind stoppers or the outer layer. Durable? Not the pants. The crotch will likely rip open the first time you squat down to get into your tent.
    They were like half the weight of my Precips and a fraction of the price...

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    I'm surprised no one hasn't mentioned the Packa. Covers both your pack and your upper body to well below the waist. Your pack straps stay dry under it as well. Has draw string sleeves and hood and packs up into its own pocket.
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    Frogg Toggs and an umbrella. Cheap, versatile and effective. I've carried, but never used, rain pants, so this year I'll try a rain kilt.

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    Khike
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    Ended up getting this, Foray Jacket from Outdoor Research. Mostly for the boat, 16oz. My hiking bud has had a Foray for 8 yrs and still going strong. Should get this for hiking, Montbell Rain Trekker, 10 oz.Really like this one, Montbell Storm Cruiser. Very pricey. 10 Oz. Good hiking. Kevin

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    Are Frogg Toggs better than the Outdoor Research Helium ii?

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    I have just got a lightheart gear rain jacket and have yet to try it out for any amount of use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMathers View Post
    I have just got a lightheart gear rain jacket and have yet to try it out for any amount of use.
    I got the Lightheart gear rain jacket for my PCT hike last year. Had it made with an additional 4 inches in the body and 4 inches in the sleeves (tall guy) and love it! It didnít rain much on the PCT, but now I use it back home on my hikes in Alaska and it is so much better than dealing with supposedly breathable shells that leak.

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