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    With the new milage this year and the re-routes does anyone know if guthooks is planning on updating their app?

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    Probably. It won't be that far off for 99% of the trail.

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    The app is updated regularly.
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    Are the app updates automatic or do you have to go online to update?

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    I have an Iphone, and it notifies me of when my apps need an update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowdy Yates View Post
    Are the app updates automatic or do you have to go online to update?
    I believe you can set that in some phone settings. So you can have apps "auto update" or not....then you have to remember to click the APPS icon to see what changes are pending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit McCrae View Post
    I have an Iphone, and it notifies me of when my apps need an update.
    I don't have an iPhone but I do have a Motorola Droid. Hope I will be notified.

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    I have an android phone and you can set it to auto-update as well. Worse case, go into the google play store and check your installed apps to see if any need to be updated.
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    I contacted Guthook recently about a question and in their response to me they mentioned that they're working on a new version to be released soon. I have an iPhone as well so I expect the update to be seamless.

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    I really like the app, but can only use it on my phone. The app says it is not compatible with my Android tablet and won't install. I like to use the app from the couch when planning (or dreaming about) a trip. The convenience of being able to use the larger screen tablet would be nice.

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    gut hooks is a great app...the mileage is terrible..i feel sometimes it makes a direct line instead of actually using the trail...just be mindful..its awesome and I love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Analog_Kidd View Post
    I really like the app, but can only use it on my phone. The app says it is not compatible with my Android tablet and won't install. I like to use the app from the couch when planning (or dreaming about) a trip. The convenience of being able to use the larger screen tablet would be nice.
    I have mine loaded on an 8" Galaxy S2. It said, before loading, it wouldn't work properly but did for the first 300 odd miles this year.
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    i used it for my LASH this year on my iphone and the app updated alot of times when i got on some network

    so will use it again this year, but got myself an android phone, and the app really stinks on android compared to ios

    so really hope they do some updating on the android and makes it more like the ios one

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    If anyone is having a particular problem with the apps, as mentioned by some about the Android app, please contact us directly so we can work it out. support@atlasguides.com

    As for the trail updates, all of those things do happen automatically when we update our databases. I just added a bunch of fairly significant reroutes in the southern end of the AT last week.

    And I match my mileage to the ATC's official mileage, so as soon as I get my copy of the Databook, I'll be making those changes as well.

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    not to get me wrong, the app was awesome on IOS, but think the elevation part is really bad in the Android version

    but will still use it, as its clearly the best thing available

    but if the app had the IOS elevation then it will go close to perfect again

    but thx for your work on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood44 View Post
    gut hooks is a great app...the mileage is terrible..i feel sometimes it makes a direct line instead of actually using the trail...just be mindful..its awesome and I love it
    Can't speak for the AT version,but I've used the JMT version and didn't notice any inaccuracies where the app wasn't following the trail.
    As for mileage begin "off"... well at least when it comes to the JMT, I've yet to see two sources match up on mileage. For a given trail intersection, I would get a different mile marker in Guthook, Wenk Data Book, and National Geo map booklet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HooKooDooKu View Post
    Can't speak for the AT version,but I've used the JMT version and didn't notice any inaccuracies where the app wasn't following the trail.
    As for mileage begin "off"... well at least when it comes to the JMT, I've yet to see two sources match up on mileage. For a given trail intersection, I would get a different mile marker in Guthook, Wenk Data Book, and National Geo map booklet.
    I've been meaning to do a blog post about this for years :-) If you just take a GPS track of the AT and run it through Google Earth, it comes up with a length of something like 2000 miles, which, of course, is way off from the official mileage. There's just so much variation between GPS tracks and wheel measurements, not to mention varying standards for original measurements, it's kind of an inexact science. The AT and a few other trails are kind of anomalous in that there's a managing organization that has an official mileage chart for the trail-- and because of that we have a pretty complex program that runs through the entire ATC data book to true-up our GPS-calculated distances to the official distances in the book.

    My guess with the JMT is that Wenk and Nat Geo each use some different way of measuring their GPS tracks. If there's no "official" mileage, then we often just go with our standard GPS measurements, since there's no telling how accurate anyone else's measurements are :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Analog_Kidd View Post
    I really like the app, but can only use it on my phone. The app says it is not compatible with my Android tablet and won't install. I like to use the app from the couch when planning (or dreaming about) a trip. The convenience of being able to use the larger screen tablet would be nice.
    Guthooks works great on iPad. Just FYI when you need a new tablet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by guthook View Post
    If anyone is having a particular problem with the apps, as mentioned by some about the Android app, please contact us directly so we can work it out. support@atlasguides.com

    As for the trail updates, all of those things do happen automatically when we update our databases. I just added a bunch of fairly significant reroutes in the southern end of the AT last week.

    And I match my mileage to the ATC's official mileage, so as soon as I get my copy of the Databook, I'll be making those changes as well.

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by guthook View Post
    I've been meaning to do a blog post about this for years :-) If you just take a GPS track of the AT and run it through Google Earth, it comes up with a length of something like 2000 miles, which, of course, is way off from the official mileage. There's just so much variation between GPS tracks and wheel measurements, not to mention varying standards for original measurements, it's kind of an inexact science. The AT and a few other trails are kind of anomalous in that there's a managing organization that has an official mileage chart for the trail-- and because of that we have a pretty complex program that runs through the entire ATC data book to true-up our GPS-calculated distances to the official distances in the book.

    My guess with the JMT is that Wenk and Nat Geo each use some different way of measuring their GPS tracks. If there's no "official" mileage, then we often just go with our standard GPS measurements, since there's no telling how accurate anyone else's measurements are :-)
    Great feedback from the man himself. Thank you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by guthook View Post
    ...My guess with the JMT is that Wenk and Nat Geo each use some different way of measuring their GPS tracks. If there's no "official" mileage, then we often just go with our standard GPS measurements, since there's no telling how accurate anyone else's measurements are :-)
    What's sort of funny about the JMT is that it's official length is 210 miles from HI to the top of Whitney. Both Wenk and Net Geo recognize this official length (and likely Guthook as well, but I don't recall). Yet it is mile markers between these two ends that don't line up.

    As for Google Earth, that's an interesting animal. I started with a GPS track I found online, and I've since spent many-a-lunch hour retracing a new track based on what I could see visually. The above-treeline stuff is easy (other than the fact that each time Google Earth updates its imagery, the exact location of the trail shifts a little), and I've managed to get most of the below treeline stuff relatively accurately (the only thing that's REALLY difficult and I don't have with any accuracy is switchbacks where mostly all the trail it hidden by trees).

    In any case... my JMT track in the properties indicates 205 miles... yet if you ask Google Earth to show an elevation profile, that same track is shown as being only 175 miles (a better than 10% discrepancy).

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