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    Howdy all, I wrote this up for the blog over at The Trek (and I posted it at hammockforums.net, a place every hammocker should browse) but I wanted to post it here because I know I must have read pages and pages of stuff here before I left for Georgia back in March.

    I was NOT an Ultra Light guy, but I considered myself mostly lightweight. That said, I didn't work too hard at cutting ounces. In fact, i couldn't tell you what any of this stuff weighs, but I know my pack was right around 25 pounds with 3 or so days of food and some water when i had my summer gear. Which, to me, is light enough.

    anywho,

    The hammock

    The Warbonnet Blackbird XLC



    I chose this hammock because it seemed to have it all. I really liked the idea of the foot box sewn in as well as the gear shelf. Of course the zip on bug net was absolutely mandatory, and I found it helped cut down on cold winds as well. There are other good options out there; Dutchware and Dream Hammocks both make excellent options for a thru hiker. I never really checked out a Hennessy but people seem to like them. I was very happy with the Blackbird, though. I’d toss my butt pad, puffy, water bottle, phone, book, and electronics sack onto the shelf and slide in then use the puffy as a head rest while I read at night. Being able to lean over and grab a bottle or maybe more clothes if the temperatures dropped was so handy. After having one I can’t imagine having a hammock without one.

    A quick note, if you’re 6 feet tall or taller, opt for the XLC over the standard Blackbird. Or, if you are looking at other vendors, make sure your hammock is an 11 footer and not a 10. It makes a big difference.

    Suspension

    A pair of Dutchware Cinch Bugs attached to 15 foot straps


    I had been told by a few people that if you’re new to hammocking it may be better to stick with standard straps and buckles (like the Blackbird comes with) instead of going with whoopie slings. Looking back, I don’t see why, but at the time I figured I already had a lot to learn so I’d better listen. I swapped out the buckles that came with the Warbonnet and replaced them with closed loops, grey and red (red for head), that easily slip right onto the hooks of the Cinch Bugs. The bugs were very easy to adjust and after awhile on trail I got to the point where I would just eyeball a pair of trees, throw everything up, and usually I’d be good on the first try. I really liked that the straps and buckles were completely separate from the hammock. So after a long night of rain I’d roll up my hammock and stuff it in my pack and then wrap up the straps last, so they could be stashed on the outside of my pack, where they’d dry and not drip water (or sap) on anything important.

    Were I to do it again I’d probably try whoopie slings instead because they’re marginally lighter but mostly because it would be something new to play with.

    The Tarp

    Hammock Gear Cuben Fiber Hex Tarp
    2 Dutchware Stingerz on the ridge line tie outs with 12 feet of zing-it line
    4 Dutchware Fleaz on the corner tie outs
    A mesh ‘snakeskin‘ from Mountain Goat gear for tarp storage
    7 aluminum MSR Groundhog stakes with ~6 feet of zing-it wrapped around them

    Oh boy, this is a big one. Your tarp selection is an important step, as it will directly affect your level of happiness for the months to come. Hammock camping is tarp camping. I splurged and went with fancy cuben fiber because its much lighter, but also it doesn’t absorb any water. To me this ended up being much more important. After hours of rain a sil-nylon or sil-poly tarp will take on water and begin to sag. You’ll stay dry, but the tarp will weigh down and puddles can begin to form. There are ways to help prevent this, like adding tensioners to your guy lines, but I didn’t want to deal with them. I wanted the cuben fiber hotness, and I’m happy with my choice.



    I hate messing with knots, especially after a long wet day on the trail. For this reason I consider the various Dutchware bling essential. They basically work like dock cleats, just pull it tight, loop around and it stays where it is. Quick to set and easy to adjust; I never had one come loose on me. I kept the fleaz larks headed onto the tarp and the cord permanently tied to my stakes initially because I thought that meant I could adjust the tarp from under it, therefore staying dry. In reality the few times I really HAD to do that was because the weather was so bad I got wet anyway, but in the end I liked keeping the line wrapped around the stakes because it make storing it (tangle free) a lot easier, plus made it harder to forget or lose a stake. Two bent on me and were replaced with smaller mini Groundhogs that I used to guy out the shelf and bug net of the hammock. Two nights I had my stakes ripped out from the ground due to crazy winds, and fixed this by stacking rocks on top of the stakes.

    I would typically set my tarp up in porch mode, because it's nice to see your buddies but also because it gives you more room to move around when you’re doing camp chores, grabbing clothes, or stumbling out in the middle of the night to pee.

    Warmth

    Mid-Atlantic Mountain Works 20 degree top quilt – the Marcy
    Loco Libre Gear 20 degree underquilt – the Habanero
    Thermarest Z seat butt pad

    I used a 3/4 length under quilt, so my butt pad did double (triple? quintuple?) duty as my foot insulation as well. When I got all comfy in the hammock at night I’d take the butt pad from the shelf and make sure it was positioned correctly, then lean back and make sure the under quilt was in the right spot, and snuggle right on in. For the most part, I was warm and happy. There were a few nights, particularly early on, where my feet still got cold. I would often curl up and roll on my side and that would help. Other times it was almost too **** warm. But, all in all, it worked. After I passed into southern Virginia I swapped out my 20 degree quilts for their 40 degree equivalents and used those all the way through Vermont. It started to get cold enough that I wanted some more warmth, so I opted to have my warmer under quilt mailed back to me (thanks, mom) but stayed with the cooler top quilt. It ended up being perfect all the way to Maine.



    Post hike musings

    Everything pretty much worked out for me. The only item I had to replace aside from the few stakes I bent was a hammock strap, which I somehow left behind at camp on my third to last day on the trail. Luckily I managed to jerry rig an old carabiner and some cordage and get by for a few more nights.

    Finding a place to hang was not really an issue. In fact, I found the hammock to be better suited to most camping conditions than tents, and would often try and find places that were bad for tenters just so I wouldn’t take a good spot away from someone who might need it. A few times when we were in a small town and camping in a field or some such I had to figure something out, or keep walking a ways to find a place with trees, but I only had to go to ground five times (twice in Smokey shelters).

    That raises the question of using a pad for bottom insulation instead of an under quilt, and that’s a heavy question. You can easily argue that it makes sense, especially for a thru hiker, to be able to (somewhat) comfortably lay on the ground should they have to. Twice I had to sleep on a floor; a church in Massachusetts and Lake in the Clouds Hut in The Whites. There’s no good solution. It really sucked, and I got little sleep.


    That said I’d still take an under quilt again. They’re much more comfortable (for me) and are worth it for the great sleep I consistently got. Then again, if you’re on a budget, having to buy ANOTHER down quilt is definitely not cheap.

    I don’t think you can ever have enough tarp.

    If I were to change anything about my setup, I would get a larger tarp. Having a tarp with doors would have been cool, but I’d go a step further and get a larger tarp such as the Hammock Gear Winter Palace or the Warbonnet Superfly. I was fine with my tarp, and I only really got alarmingly wet once, during a crazy storm while we were camped halfway up a mountain. The winds changed and the rain was blowing straight through the foot end of my hammock. Nothing got soaked, and the storm faded after 15 minutes (luckily I was sipping a beer or three and wasn’t as concerned as I otherwise would have been). Still, it was eyebrow raising.

    Anything I left under my hammock, like my pack and shoes and such, would get drenched in a heavy rainfall. Mostly from splash but also from wind driven rain. It was one such time that I looked up and saw my buddy Houdini sitting happily in his hammock under his enormous Superfly that made me decide that the larger tarp is worth the weight, if for nothing else but peace of mind. Many a rainy night I would reach under my hammock and pat my under quilt and find that it was wet. It never affected my warmth (Loco Libre and MAMW both use treated down), but it still caused some stress.

    Whatever you decide to run with, just make sure you take it out a few times and practice with it. Surrounded by heavy snow with shaking hands is definitely not the time you want to realize you can’t recall exactly how to adjust your straps or under quilt. And remember;


    hangers and ground dwellers can co-exist!
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    Thanks for sharing!

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    Do you think all the dutchware was neccesary? I dont have any hardware for my tarp, just knots and tension and Ive never had an issue with it. I dont even use fancy line, Ive used braided painters string for years without issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue indian View Post
    Do you think all the dutchware was neccesary? I dont have any hardware for my tarp, just knots and tension and Ive never had an issue with it. I dont even use fancy line, Ive used braided painters string for years without issues
    I don't think it's totally necessary, no. Especially if you're already wired when it comes to your set up.
    But I loved it all because it made it so fast and brainless for me. A lot of those little things that don't matter when you're backpacking take a back seat when you're thru hiking.

    Like when I camp I like shorter days, setting up early, getting a fire going, hanging out etc

    On a thru hike you typically end up setting up, making food, and going to bed.


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    What I mean is, if you have you're routine and skills all squared away you're golden; don't worry about whatever some (ruggedly handsome and totally cool) dude on the internet tells you that you have to do.

    But, for my mileage, after a 22 mile day I didn't want to do anything but drop my **** and eat a hot meal with my friends. The quicker and easier o could make that happen, the better


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    I'm with ya! I'm out of the knot business! Just a simple pair of D rings where I can pull a line tight and forget it is worth the grams. It's about ease at the end of the day and speed in foul weather and any of the easy tension devices help with both.

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    So I plan on thru hiking this coming June in 2018, going SoBo, would you suggest a mosquito net for Maine in June? Is it worth the extra set up required? I currently own an extra lightweight hammock, along with a lightweight tarp. What would be the cost/benefit to carrying a mosquito net?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mouth View Post
    So I plan on thru hiking this coming June in 2018, going SoBo, would you suggest a mosquito net for Maine in June? Is it worth the extra set up required? I currently own an extra lightweight hammock, along with a lightweight tarp. What would be the cost/benefit to carrying a mosquito net?
    You could use a "HUG" net, or half-bug net. Here's a post at "the Ultimate Hang" by Derek Hansen about it. I imagine it weighs next to nothing. I have no clue about the bugs in Maine in june, others can chime in there, but you will need something over the summer as you move south for sure. Good luck!

    https://theultimatehang.com/2016/09/...-instructions/

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    you want full mosquito net coverage in maine in june. or you will suffer

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    Thanks for this info. I've changed my setup to a Hammock Bliss Sky Bed, with a sewn-in sleeve to hold my Therm-a-Rest inflatable in place, and a Chill Gorilla Fortress 2 tarp with doors along with a lightweight underquilt for butt protection. I have a bug net for the summer months.

    Currently fiddling around with one of those Costco throws as an added thermal layer.
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