Hyke and Byke Shavano 32°F Ultralight Down Sleeping Bag

[Stone1984]

https://hykeandbyke.com/collections/...ng-and-camping



Anyone with any experience with this bag? Thinking of getting this to finish GA in November

[Venchka]

Neither light nor any indication of warmth.
Pass!
Don't buy a sleeping bag without proper specs. No mention of down weight or loft measurements. 550 duck down is bottom of the barrel quality.
Georgia in November could easily leave you very uncomfortable in a sketchy unknown 32 degree bag.
Look at your complete sleep system and then get back to us. The bag is only one part.
Wayne


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[Stone1984]

I am using a Thermarest Evolite Sleeping pad with a sea to summit thermolite reactor liner.

I am not sure about what clothing I will be wearing in winter yet.

[PAHiker]

Should have been.
No experience but read the temp rating info closely since you mentioned November.
From your link:
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[Venchka]

Do your homework. What meteorology conditions are you likely to encounter?
R-value of the pad? The liner offers dubious value. Probably not worth the weight or the trouble.
Have you actually used any of your gear at altitude and in fall or near winter conditions?
Or are you in "wishing and hoping" mode?
Be dry. Be warm. Stay out of the wind. Be safe.
Wayne


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[Venchka]

I'm glad to see some more information.
32 degree SURVIVAL mode?
"Be afraid. Be very afraid."
Get serious. That's a total waste of $100.
Wayne


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[Stone1984]

Do your homework. What meteorology conditions are you likely to encounter?
R-value of the pad? The liner offers dubious value. Probably not worth the weight or the trouble.
Have you actually used any of your gear at altitude and in fall or near winter conditions?
Or are you in "wishing and hoping" mode?
Be dry. Be warm. Stay out of the wind. Be safe.
Wayne


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I have used my pad and liner during most of GA already. The liner is good for me to sleep in down into the low 50s. And for me it is worth its weight for sure.

The sleeping pad has an R value of 2.1

And I am not sure of the conditions to be honest. November in GA mountains is impossible to predict.

And my biggest problem is I have only hiked in spring and summer so far so late fall and winter is new to me.

[Venchka]

I have used my pad and liner during most of GA already. The liner is good for me to sleep in down into the low 50s. And for me it is worth its weight for sure.

The sleeping pad has an R value of 2.1

And I am not sure of the conditions to be honest. November in GA mountains is impossible to predict.

And my biggest problem is I have only hiked in spring and summer so far so late fall and winter is new to me.

Practice before if possible.
November won't be anything like spring or summer.
Watch 10 day forecasts. Plan your gear and clothes at the last minute.
Eat a hot meal at bedtime and take a bottle of hot (not boiling) water in your bag. You will be learning. The next time you do this you might do it right.
Wayne


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[Venchka]

This should work well in November in Georgia.
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Buy quality once.
Wayne


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[DownEaster]

There isn't any magic formula to get adequate insulation, roominess, and low cost. These down bags aren't particularly weight-efficient, either. Even the trim Eolus bags are heavier than good synthetics of similar design, like my Marmot Cloudbreak 30. (The Cloudbreak 30 is 31 ounces for 32.4° male comfort, and the Eolus "15°F" bag is 41 ounces for 30° male comfort.)

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[Venchka]

Stone1984:
When in November? Early or late? It matters.
A very plausible day in November at elevation.
High temperature for the day is 50 degrees and arrives at 12:01 AM.
The wind begins to pipe up along with the humidity.
Before long the atmosphere is liquid.
Bone chilling conditions.
Your watch says it's morning. The gloom says NO!
The little zipper pull thermometer on your jacket says 35 degrees.
What will it be like after dark?
What's in your pack for a day or two or three like this?
Windproof. Waterproof. Wool. A good place to start.
Wayne


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[Hikingjim]

400g of 550 fill duck down is not that much in a bag. the shell weighs a lot on that bag

If you want to go fairly cheap and light, consider the HG 800 fp duck down 20f quilt
http://www.hammockgear.com/burrow-econ-20/
1.5 lbs

Their more expensive quilts (I own one) are just a few ounces lighter and use goose down instead of duck, and I like it.

If you're using the evolite sleeping pad (not the plus warmer version), that's pretty bad for november (not 100% sure on what the temps will be). that's more a summer pad. You might want to add a light foam pad to supplement

[Venchka]

The REI Igneo 17 is a decent middle of the 3 season bag.
https://backpackers.com/outdoor-gear...neo-17-review/
Wayne


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[Venchka]

That's "middle of the road 3 season bag."
Wayne


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[Stone1984]

Just a quick update to this I will be adding the Klymit Insulated Static V Sleeping Pad with an R value of 4.1. This should be a much better sleeping pad for winter.

[Venchka]

Just a quick update to this I will be adding the Klymit Insulated Static V Sleeping Pad with an R value of 4.1. This should be a much better sleeping pad for winter.

Good move. Still only part of the puzzle.
Wayne


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[cmoulder]

Just a quick update to this I will be adding the Klymit Insulated Static V Sleeping Pad with an R value of 4.1. This should be a much better sleeping pad for winter.

Define winter.

Even with a decent bag or quilt (which doesn't seem to be a priority ), R4.1 probably won't be enough at 20°F or lower. I'd put a 3/8" CCF pad on top of that.

But for cryin' out loud, don't waste your money on 550 down.

I have no problem at all with duck. My EE 20°F Enigma is 800fp duck and it is fine. At least spend a few more bucks and get something reasonably decent such as a HG quilt.

[Stone1984]

Define winter.

Even with a decent bag or quilt (which doesn't seem to be a priority ), R4.1 probably won't be enough at 20°F or lower. I'd put a 3/8" CCF pad on top of that.

But for cryin' out loud, don't waste your money on 550 down.

I have no problem at all with duck. My EE 20°F Enigma is 800fp duck and it is fine. At least spend a few more bucks and get something reasonably decent such as a HG quilt.

If getting the right bag or quilt wasn't a priority I would have just ordered the one I posted and not asked the question.

I have never winter hiked so I am new to what I need to be comfortable. Thats why I am taking all the advice here. I understand now that the 550 down is no good and will be doing something much better 800 or higher

[cmoulder]

Sorry, but when you started talking about the sleeping pad I thought perhaps you had moved on.

However, as Wayne stated it is just part of the puzzle of the sleep system. Sometimes it is also possible to include puffy clothing layers as part of the system in order to keep the overall weight lower, although that is a more complicated and specialized topic.

[Stone1984]

As far as a Puffy I just got in a new Mountain Hardware Stretch Down jacket. That thing is very warm.