"...in one case a bear was undeterred by bear spray"
Not cool. It was reassuring knowing I had my spray as a last line of defense. But this is the first time I've ever heard of bear spray being ineffective. I hope it's because it wasn't discharged properly or something, like not directly into the bear's face.
It's a bear. Bear don't care. Even if it drove bear away, bear don't care. Bear come back. No more spray. Bear don't care.
Bear didn't get to the top of the food chain by being deterred by some capsacin spray. Bear didn't get to the top of the food chain by being deterred. Period. Full stop. Has no natural predator(man with weapon doesn't count). Omnivore. Because bear don't care. Berries or brains, to bear it's all the same....
Bear don't got no natural predators only because we killed all their natural predators off.
Until humans first entered North America during the last ice age, there were a number of large predator species that dominated the land including the (huge) American short-nosed bear, the sabertooth tiger, the American lion, several larger wolf species usually referred to as dire wolves, as well as a number of other megafauna species.
Back then, black bears were only mid way up the food chain and survived by fleeing danger first and asking questions later. It wasn't until humans entered the scene and killed off the more dangerous animals that black bears became the most powerful creature in the Eastern woods, purely by default. The reason that black bears survive to this day is largely because of their instinct to run away, they never posed enough of a threat to early humans or to later european settlers to warrant being killed off entirely.
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.
Black bears think WE are the predators they evolved to run away from.
Last edited by MuddyWaters; 08-24-2017 at 00:57.
Another place removed from the list.
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Panthertown only has one established shelter, a long low A-frame deal that could sleep a couple dozen in a pinch. It's only an easy 1.5 miles or so from the nearest parking, and thus attracts all sorts of hikers, including many less-experienced and/or less conscientious. This has only increased as Panthertown has become more popular over the past few years. In short, the bears have learned that the shelter is frequently an easy meal - they have become increasingly emboldened, walking through the shelter clearing even if hikers are present (including when we were there last fall). I'd second the bearcan recommendation - and would also seek out a more secluded campsite, Panthertown is awesome, with numerous "unofficial" but nice established campsites.