Camping in luxury?

[greenmtnboy]

NY Times article on camping in an upscale way. To me it looks like the yuppification of the outdoors which traditionalists would reject as just plain stupid and pretentious. Hiking and camping should be spartan and test our mettle and character in good ways not seek to bring our spoiled habits into the great outdoors.

[greenmtnboy]

Oops forgot to link it: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/d...T.nav=top-news

[Deadeye]

. Hiking and camping should be spartan and test our mettle and character in good ways not seek to bring our spoiled habits into the great outdoors.

Sez who? If you want to be Spartan go ahead, if you want to carry luxury items, your choice. I hike for fun, I get enough character testing at work.

[cmoulder]

Tiptoe beat you to it by 33 minutes, lol.

Don't worry, these folks won't be getting very far into the woods and you might score some gourmet vittles not far from a road crossing.

[Heliotrope]

Tiptoe beat you to it by 33 minutes, lol.

Don't worry, these folks won't be getting very far into the woods and you might score some gourmet vittles not far from a road crossing.

Hahaha! So true.


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[Slo-go'en]

Tiptoe beat you to it by 33 minutes, lol.
Don't worry, these folks won't be getting very far into the woods and you might score some gourmet vittles not far from a road crossing.

I scored a gourmet lunch near the summit of Mt Graylock on one of my LASHer hikes thanks to couple of nice ladies out for the day.

[Dogwood]

The more crap that goes into the woods, onto the river, to the top of the mountain, etc the more crap that humans will leave there.

Hey, I need a generator for my "portable rotating pedestal fan", beer and steak cooler, to inflate my inflatable mattress, to energize electronics, etc. Gotta watch that game and the Bitchlerotte.

[Dogwood]

Humans can't even responsibly hygienically discard their own excrement without thinking just dropping a rock or pile of leaves on a large TP flower does the job. Go ahead debate that when wandering around atop Mt Whitney. Mt Elbert, or observing at a front country CG a family of four allowing Fido to romp and defecate in the swimming and/or drinking water.

[blw2]

I also have an RV. I was thinking about this concept a while back..."what is camping?".

The RV is great family time, sometimes I get outdoors and "away from it all" with it....but that aint camping to me. But to some people, they call it camping. To others it's fancy living.

To me real camping is getting into the outdoors. It can be had from going to say a state park campground and camping near the tailgate of my truck..... but mostly that aint it for me. But to some people, that's camping

To me camping is backpacking down a trail a ways. Or paddling a canoe or kayak to some island or sandbar. Dispersed camping mostly fits it for me.... but that is not without a certain civilization still.

Anyway, When I was thinking about it.....it dawned on me that the definition is very relative. There is some element of roughing it required. Simplifying down from what your "normal" is.....
It would also include some element of nature and outdoors..... but backpacking with hundreds of dollars worth of fancy stoves, flashlights, and other equipment.....travelling down an improved and marked trail, complete with shelters, water sources and sometimes even facilities.....
to some folks THAT is fancy living. There are folks in this world who live by torchlight and sleep in lean-to shelters. They don't have canister stoves, water filters, bug netting..... Are they camping?

[MuddyWaters]

In the words of John Pinette:

"If Lewis and Clark had seen a Hilton, they wouldnt have camped"

[hikehunter]

I belive it is best for newbies stay at a state park or a KOA for the first few times to see if it is what they really think it truely is to be out back....

[rocketsocks]

In the words of John Pinette:

"If Lewis and Clark had seen a Hilton, they wouldnt have camped"

An Indian casino.

[MuddyWaters]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttTmincYe9M

[greenmtnboy]

When I was in boy scouts there were campers with their gas tent warmers, who lived high on the hog at mealtime, had the best gear, etc.. For the serious campers basic nutritious food was good enough.

[LittleRock]

NY Times article on camping in an upscale way. To me it looks like the yuppification of the outdoors which traditionalists would reject as just plain stupid and pretentious. Hiking and camping should be spartan and test our mettle and character in good ways not seek to bring our spoiled habits into the great outdoors.

To each his own. One nice thing about those people is they often bring more food than they can eat, and are only too happy to give away their extras. :-)

[Just Bill]

Reminds me of boundary waters trips... or car camping trips with buddies... or a romantic dinner by the campfire with my wife.

Not every trip is a LD backpacking trip if you enjoy the outdoors.

And personally- the more people with money who visit the outdoors - the more bodies to vote for it and the more money to protect it.

[JPritch]

I was expecting much worse before reading the article (like the folks who call this "camping": https://autocamp.com/gallery/). I love to rip on well to do yuppies taking a stab at roughing it, I just do, but I don't see any foul here. Just a bunch of folks getting creative in order to eat well in the woods. Aren't we all to some degree?

[Harrison Bergeron]

Reminds me of boundary waters trips... or car camping trips with buddies... or a romantic dinner by the campfire with my wife.

Not every trip is a LD backpacking trip if you enjoy the outdoors.

And personally- the more people with money who visit the outdoors - the more bodies to vote for it and the more money to protect it.

Yeah! What he said!

The only part of that article that bothered me was the words "NY Times".

My gear is minimal because my back is weak, not because I like short rations, dirty underwear, and a hard bed. In Texas, I'd hike with an air conditioner if they didn't weigh 100 pounds!

[KDogg]

They are car camping. Why wouldn't you bring whatever you want?

[MuddyWaters]

When we started car camping with tiger cubs and cub scouts, people hauled trailers of stuff.

Generators, full size gas barbecue grills from home, space heaters, air conditioners, satellite dish, big screen projector TV to watch ball games, big white tents to lounge under. They werent camping, as much as tailgating ( which is what they was used to). Everyone slept on inflatable bed, not a camping mattress, a full size air mattress. Huge tents . Astroturf . Lounge chairs.

One guy brought fogger and would spray the whole area for bugs. These people literally would have to take day off of work to pack for one day, two nights of camping.

One time, a dad took off and brought his tractor and bushhog to the scout ranch to mow the area we were going to camp at as well. And treat fire ant mounds.

Then we always had a little project to do to fix something at the ranch so we all brung our tools too.

But we ate well. Boy, we ate well.