Just about at 20lbs!

[cmoulder]

Without a gear list it's hard to tell if you are a genius or a fool.

For somebody who has made the effort to learn UL concepts and put together a halfway decent kit, it is simple common sense... nothing extreme about it nowadays.

If you gotta have a gear list, HERE is mine for this past weekend, rainy and 55°F Saturday, 42°F overnight, glorious sunshine Sunday, with total comfort... and yes, I did use almost everything I carried. Total pack weight with food (about 1.5 lb) and 20 oz of water was a bit under 11 lb.