What is the advantage of titanium over aluminum stakes? Aluminum is often very close in weight to titanium. If you take similar stakes and have to beat them into hard ground, how much difference does it make before each would bend?
What is the advantage of titanium over aluminum stakes? Aluminum is often very close in weight to titanium. If you take similar stakes and have to beat them into hard ground, how much difference does it make before each would bend?
Ti shepherd hooks work. If you made them out of Al they would have to be much wider gauge wire for the same tensile strength. I use both Al and Ti stakes, depending on the soil...YMMV...
What about V shaped stakes? Also I have seen Y shaped aluminum stakes but none made from titanium. Has anyone else seen them made from Ti?
Yes. For some time now. Here, check it out...
https://www.vargooutdoors.com/titanium-tent-stakes.html
Ti is something like 50% heavier than Aluminium (I love the way the Brits pronounce this...), but roughly twice as strong, so Ti stakes can be overall lighter for the same strength, though the AL ones, being thicker (for the same strength), would have that slightly more holding power... always tradeoffs...
I've used Ti "Shepherd hook" stakes for maybe 8 years now, always worked for me. Every once in a while I'll back up a particular holding with a flat rock on top of the line up against the stake. If I were camping in a primarily sandy soil area, I'd probably carry AL stakes with a Y shape, I have some never used, came with various tents.
You can also get carbon fibre nails/pegs....
http://www.zpacks.com/accessories/stakes.shtml
First, the ones at Vargo appear to be v shaped, not y shaped. My interest is mainly in shepherds hooks and V shape as far as hammering strength. I was curious as to if Ti Y shaped stakes were even produced. The only y shaped stakes I have seen were aluminum and I think they were MSR mini groundhogs.
Scarebear, thanks for the 2 internet spots. I do have to get other things as well. Both were new to me.
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Just to be more fully inclusive on the products out there...
https://www.toaksoutdoor.com/collections/accessory
http://lawsonequipment.com/Tent-Stakes-c132/ (psssssst......these are the best bang for the buck out there...)
You are correct, depending on the stake, the weight of some aluminum stakes are very close to titanium. I generally us titanium shepherd hooks. The down side is they don't hold as well in loose soil. The MSR Ground Hog stakes hold better in loose soil. With the Ground Hog's you can use a shorter stake. This might be an advantage if you are hammering them end and they do tend to be less expensive. If you constantly hammer on them, I would go cheep
I never hammer Ti stakes in just push them in step on them sometimes add a rock if needed
thom
Good luck w the carbon fiber stakes I don't trust them .
thom
Aluminum is less dense than titamium so titanium objects are heavier than aluminum objects of the same size. The weight savings for Ti gear (such as pots) comes from the ability ti make them much thinner due Ti's greater strength. But it seems to me that the holding ability is going to be proprtional to its size (a fatter tent peg will hold better than a thin one). So it makes sense to make tent pegs out of the least dense material (Al), so you get the greatest holding power (size) per gram. I've been using Al gutter spikes with good luck.
I like the idea of the gutter spikes. Sounds as if they would be superior to the shepherds hooks. Have you ever weighed one to see how many grams they are?
I did one, but forgot. I believe they were a few grams heavier than a Ti hook stake, but much fatter. Unlike a Easton peg, they are one piece so the had can't fall off. On downside is they can be hard to pull sometimes as there is not much to grab hold of. I've heard of people drilling a hold through the top and looping a short piece of cord through to give something to grab hold of.
I was intrigued too but the no pounding thing is a killer for me. I am really thinking nails for guttering might be for me strong and cheap. Those Ti ones look nice too just don't know how strong they are and I know I can be hard on stakes.
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On the AT, Ti shepherd's hooks are all I need...
YMMV!