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    Quote Originally Posted by trailmercury View Post
    My arms will have 5 months to rest since I'll be "just walkin" thereafter
    perfect, have a great hike!

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    For my thru hike, the sorest part of my body was usually my shoulders from using hiking poles! Or maybe sleeping on my side with a neoair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulWorksHard View Post
    For my thru hike, the sorest part of my body was usually my shoulders from using hiking poles! Or maybe sleeping on my side with a neoair?
    I doubt poles would cause hurt shoulders, maybe if you were leaning on them way too much all day. were you bottoming out on your neo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbitHole View Post
    I'll be flying to Atlanta via Delta, I have a Z pack Arc Haul with trekking poles. Should I check it or use it as a carry-on, and how to accomplish such a thing?
    You have to check your size pack on Delta. it is larger than the cary on size allowance.

    From Delta's website:

    Baggage must fit easily in the Carry-on Baggage Check (
    approximately 22" x 14" x 9" or 56 x 35 x 23 cm), which is located near the check-in counters.

    http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_.../carry-on.html

    From ZP's website(for the Arc Haul):

    Specifications:



    Total Volume: 62 Liters / 3,800 cubic inches - 24.0 ounces (680 grams)
    Main Body Volume: About 49 Liters / 3,000 cubic inches
    Pockets: About 5L (300 ci) in the side pockets, and 8L (500 ci) in the mesh center pocket.
    Body dimensions: 8" x 12.5" x 30" (19 cm x 31.8 cm x 76 cm)

    You should check your flight carriers size and wt allowance for carry on items as part of your traveling prep.















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    FWIW: 1) I've carried foldable trekking poles like Black Diamond Ultra Distance Carbon Z and Komperdell Carbon Vario 4 on several different carriers stored inside my backpacks that all carried on a plane with never a hassle. These all had flat carbide or steel tips and I always still place the stock rubber tip protectors on the tips. I figure, know what the TSA Agents are looking for and why and don't give it to them. i.e.; make their job and your traveling with trekking poles more hassle free

    2) I like having my backpack with me on public transportation. On flights it's easier as I'm UL not only in terms of wt but low volume. All but my absolutely largest haulers are allowed on all flights as carry on baggage. I've had stuff missing from my checked backpacks(hassle making claims when you arrive at your destination like Atlanta - now the busiest AP in the world - and the shuttle is waiting on you), backpacks rummaged through, and backpacks or gear damaged checking it.

    An alternative I use is mailing ahead stuff like food and other non essentials and maybe pocket knives, fuel, trekking poles(never had to do that this though), etc to lighten the load and volume and make it easier to get through TSA. This has allowed my to shrink the size of a few of my largest packs that I could carry them onto the flight. It makes traveling long distance less cumbersome yet IF IF something was to go wrong in the mailing I'm still able to start the hike. I'm more in control of my gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogwood View Post
    You have to check your size pack on Delta. it is larger than the cary on size allowance.

    From Delta's website:

    Baggage must fit easily in the Carry-on Baggage Check (
    approximately 22" x 14" x 9" or 56 x 35 x 23 cm), which is located near the check-in counters.

    http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_.../carry-on.html

    From ZP's website(for the Arc Haul):

    Specifications:



    Total Volume: 62 Liters / 3,800 cubic inches - 24.0 ounces (680 grams)
    Main Body Volume: About 49 Liters / 3,000 cubic inches
    Pockets: About 5L (300 ci) in the side pockets, and 8L (500 ci) in the mesh center pocket.
    Body dimensions: 8" x 12.5" x 30" (19 cm x 31.8 cm x 76 cm

    with the roll top cinched down the bag is "approximately" 25 inches tall...To my "eyeball" a moderately filled Arc Haul is about the size of many pieces of luggage that I have seen carried on planes; pre and post 9/11...Anybody know for sure you can carry it on? As in, have you carried on your Arc Haul? I have yet to try and would be p*ssed to have to check it...I'd just as soon mail it empty with my poles, stove, stakes, knife, lighters etc. and carry on a throw away school backpack and re-pack at Hiker Hostel.
    As stated above, mailing/shipping UL gear is still cheaper than paying to check a bag and less risky in my opinion

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    More likely too much air in it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailmercury View Post
    with the roll top cinched down the bag is "approximately" 25 inches tall...To my "eyeball" a moderately filled Arc Haul is about the size of many pieces of luggage that I have seen carried on planes; pre and post 9/11...Anybody know for sure you can carry it on? As in, have you carried on your Arc Haul? I have yet to try and would be p*ssed to have to check it...I'd just as soon mail it empty with my poles, stove, stakes, knife, lighters etc. and carry on a throw away school backpack and re-pack at Hiker Hostel.
    As stated above, mailing/shipping UL gear is still cheaper than paying to check a bag and less risky in my opinion
    +1 A viable option to meet carry on allowance size is to mail some stuff ahead, reduce volume, and roll down the pack eight. I take that approach occasionally especially in the U.S. Again, I like having my pack with me.

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    My how things have changed, in nineteen hundred and eighty nine I brought a gold pan and rock pick in my carry on. The lady said "what's this" I told her what it was...next!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailmercury View Post
    with the roll top cinched down the bag is "approximately" 25 inches tall...To my "eyeball" a moderately filled Arc Haul is about the size of many pieces of luggage that I have seen carried on planes; pre and post 9/11...Anybody know for sure you can carry it on? As in, have you carried on your Arc Haul? I have yet to try and would be p*ssed to have to check it...I'd just as soon mail it empty with my poles, stove, stakes, knife, lighters etc. and carry on a throw away school backpack and re-pack at Hiker Hostel. As stated above, mailing/shipping UL gear is still cheaper than paying to check a bag and less risky in my opinion
    Its really dependent on the airline, their policy, how full the flight is, and the airline personnel at the gate at the time of departure. Best advice remains to check your airline's carry on size/weight limits and not exceed them. Sometimes people are allowed to board with oversized items on the first flight, but the second flight won't allow it in the overhead compartments. Best thing is to measure the pack and be sure you are at or slightly below the maximum allowable size. If theres a doubt, there is no doubt and shipping may be the better option.

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    My sister flew with an ARC Blast, she had to remove the side stays and put them diagonal in the pack to roll it down far enough to meet the size limit. Luckly it was not full for a hike, no food.

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    Funny story. I work on Blck Island every other Friday. It's a small island located about 13 miles off the coast of Rhode Island. It's serviced by a small local airline that uses either 6 passenger single engine planes or 11? passenger twin engine planes. It's about a twelve minute flight depending on which approach path they use.

    Often, on the early Friday morning flight there are a couple of surveyors going out to do their surveying thing. They bring their tripod, and a plastic box with their transit in it, their surveyors pole, and always a machete in a green canvas sheeth. I always get a chuckle out of that.

    When the Homeland Security Agency was formed, for the "safety of the flying public", they erected an eight foot chain link fence with three rows of barbed wire on top, around the whole airport but the surveyors still carry their machete right on the plane. Gotta love it!

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    I've flown Southwest and Delta with my Osprey Atmos 50 as a carry-on.

    Our next door neighbor is a Delta flight attendant, she told me they would not allow hiking poles as a carry-on item, even if packed inside the backpack. I mailed my poles and stove ahead to my shuttle driver.

    good luck and have a great hike

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    Does anyone know a source for inexpensive duffel bags? I need one to take my pack on a plane to Atlanta. My pack is an Osprey Atmos 65 AG.

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    Thrift stores - Salvation Army, church run, etc.
    Garage sales.
    Dollar stores, Walmart, etc.
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    Military surplus. Do you have any friends who are veterans and have a duffle bag they don't need? Any Surplus stores nearby with real surplus inventory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colter View Post
    I wouldn't try to carry on a pack with trekking poles: http://blog.tsa.gov/2014/05/tsa-trav...-tips-for.html

    I think my last long hike I put my pack and poles in a beefy box, with my very expensive carbon fiber poles inside a length of PVC pipe inside the same box.
    Thanks for sharing the link!

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    I have air traveled with a fully loaded 65l pack a few times (no fuel, just a tuna can stove) and never had a problem with it as checked luggage. I usually just lash my trekking poles to the outside of the pack really tight. I plan on doing the same when I fly to Atlanta this March. My poles are cheapos and my pack is fairly durable (not ultralight), so it can tolerate some tossing around by the baggage handlers.

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    so nobody has had any issues bringing a tent in your carry-on? i think that is the only thing i am worried about as i don't use a stove or trekking poles or carry a knife of any kind. hmm, maybe the trowel can be considered dangerous though lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbitHole View Post
    I'll be flying to Atlanta via Delta, I have a Z pack Arc Haul with trekking poles. Should I check it or use it as a carry-on, and how to accomplish such a thing?
    Depends on your trekking pole designs for one thing. I've taken Black Diamond UL Distance Z Poles and Komperdell Carbon Vario 4 collapsable foldable trekking poles stored easily in my UL backpack 7 or so times on N. America flights, including recently, with no problem as carry ons in my backpack. I'm with others who say they always like having backpacks with them which is easy with UL low volume kits so I aim to always cary on. Interestingly, twice while flying with other hikers trying to carry on meshing/telescopic trekking poles on the outside or inside of their packs they both have been flagged. One with tips protectors one without.

    Quote Originally Posted by la.lindsey View Post
    I've bought a poster tube to check my poles and knife before. That worked really well, and was easy to trash afterwards.

    I've also carried on poles and stakes several times with no problem from a few different airports. I would never check my entire pack.
    Here. Easy. +1

    Have never been flagged for stakes(Al, Ti, skewer, MSR Ground Hogs, carbon, etc) or dedicated carbon fiber tarp poles either. I've never been flagged for the huge bag of supplements I usually flying with. The one item I get flagged for is my Snowpeak Titanium Mini Solo Cook Pot which I store my isobutane stove, Ti foldable spork, and ditty rag in which the X-ray machine can't fully see through. That's why I've been storing it inside on the top of my pack so TSA can do their job easily if they have to open up my pack. attempting to get pressurized isobutane cans, well used and dirty liquid fuel/gas/alchy stoves, dirty fuel containers, pocket knives, and razor blades on flights you'll get detained longer perhaps missing your flight receiving a lecture in the process as a team of TSA Agents profile you.

    Better IMO to also mail ahead food or buy once in the GA rather than haul it on flights, trains, camels, etc. Sometimes the food volume and wt is what can put you over the size and wt carry on limit. PLUS, it's more hassle to travel with 10 lbs of food.

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