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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareBear View Post
    What about incineration?
    No longer recommended. Multiple forest fires have been started by people trying to burn TP.

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    I'm surprised nobody has claimed to use a McFlurry spoon yet. I can't imagine a boot dug hole was much more than a 4"x2" scratch in the dirt with some leaves tossed over for good measure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devoidapop View Post
    I'm surprised nobody has claimed to use a McFlurry spoon yet. I can't imagine a boot dug hole was much more than a 4"x2" scratch in the dirt with some leaves tossed over for good measure.
    horses for courses. in loamy or sandy soil with a lot of duff you can do pretty well. in root and rock infested soil, which is more than common at elevation in the Appalachian mountains, not so much...

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    Sometimes I think I was on a different trail than all of you. I almost never got a six inch hole dug and was using a deuce of spades. The ground is full of rock and roots. EVERYONE I talked to out there admitted that they could not get a proper hold dug either. I got well off the trail, did the best I could with a hole, covered it up with dirt and leaves and left a couple twigs in a cross on top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelph View Post
    Same place the heel of a boot will dig a hole.
    yeah, not very many I'm afraid. people regularly break trowels, it's not like garden soil up there.

    I like the black and orange glass-filled nylon Fiskars gardening trowel. it's light, really cheap and durable. you can even sharpen the edge if it gets dull. perfect...

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    Use pure cellulose toilet paper. Water easily dissolves it. Pee on it and it's gone :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDogg View Post
    Sometimes I think I was on a different trail than all of you. I almost never got a six inch hole dug and was using a deuce of spades. The ground is full of rock and roots. EVERYONE I talked to out there admitted that they could not get a proper hold dug either. I got well off the trail, did the best I could with a hole, covered it up with dirt and leaves and left a couple twigs in a cross on top.
    And for this exact reason I never trust water sources that trap or are energized by rain run off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondmouse View Post
    yeah, not very many I'm afraid. people regularly break trowels, it's not like garden soil up there.

    I like the black and orange glass-filled nylon Fiskars gardening trowel. it's light, really cheap and durable. you can even sharpen the edge if it gets dull. perfect...
    This is the one I was referring to, that came from Walmart.. the handle tip used to be orange, but i can't see a name in it anywhere.. i obviously don't know chit from shinola, but i would have thought it to be sturdy enough


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    Quote Originally Posted by lesliedgray View Post
    This is the one I was referring to, that came from Walmart.. the handle tip used to be orange, but i can't see a name in it anywhere.. i obviously don't know chit from shinola, but i would have thought it to be sturdy enough


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    May work well on the soft ground of a lot of the AT, but I really needed my deuce of spades on the JMT because it was so rocky and the ground was hard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyPincher View Post
    LNT. pack it out
    An alternative method of dealing with TP is the poup soup technique, that I learned from Charlie Thorpe, LNT Master Educator:

    After depositing waste and TP / materials into the cathole,

    1. use a sturdy stick (not your trowel) to mix all of this with some loose soil,
    2. then add a cup or so of water* and mix again.

    The TP, soil, and feces should not be recognizable as such once thoroughly mixed in this soup. The thorough mixing of all of the cathole contents with soil and water will speed decomposition, make animal digging less likely, and will completely avoid the “TP flower” problem.
    * there is some disagreement as to how essential it really is to add water to the mix,
    but if you can spare some, it does speed the mixing process
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    maybe a dumb question, but how about burning the tp down in the hole? Can't say I've done it, but have thought about it when considering the dig up TP Flower

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    Quote Originally Posted by blw2 View Post
    maybe a dumb question, but how about burning the tp down in the hole? Can't say I've done it, but have thought about it when considering the dig up TP Flower
    Please burn your used TP and report back on how that goes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by la.lindsey View Post
    Please burn your used TP and report back on how that goes.


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    Please don't start a forest fire...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blw2 View Post
    maybe a dumb question, but how about burning the tp down in the hole? Can't say I've done it, but have thought about it when considering the dig up TP Flower
    Quote Originally Posted by la.lindsey View Post
    Please burn your used TP and report back on how that goes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by soumodeler View Post
    Please don't start a forest fire...
    In a couple of minutes of searching and I came up with more than a dozen stories of wildfires started by people burnig Toilet Paper. Some resulted in criminal charges.

    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...-toilet-paper/

    http://wildfiretoday.com/tag/toilet-paper/

    http://wildfiretoday.com/2011/10/30/...-toilet-paper/

    http://wildfiretoday.com/2012/01/01/...-toilet-paper/

    http://wildfiretoday.com/2014/11/12/...nded-sentence/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcasm the elf View Post
    In a couple of minutes of searching and I came up with more than a dozen stories of wildfires started by people burnig Toilet Paper. Some resulted in criminal charges.

    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...-toilet-paper/

    http://wildfiretoday.com/tag/toilet-paper/

    http://wildfiretoday.com/2011/10/30/...-toilet-paper/

    http://wildfiretoday.com/2012/01/01/...-toilet-paper/

    http://wildfiretoday.com/2014/11/12/...nded-sentence/
    Oh come on. It's in a hole, surrounded by dirt, pee, and poop, and covered in excrement. I don't think this would be how the forest fire starts.

    I was referring to the horrible smell that would result from burning used TP, and don't think that anyone would actually want to burn used TP, but thanks, saints of WB!


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    Default Cellulose TP

    Two questions:

    (1) anyone see a downside to this except cost? Sounds like a really good solution I never thought of.

    (2) anybody know where this might be widely available at retail? The link looks like the firm only sells wholesale and a couple of minutes of googling didn't turn up too much in terms of amazon etc.

    Thanks!



    Quote Originally Posted by zelph View Post
    Use pure cellulose toilet paper. Water easily dissolves it. Pee on it and it's gone :-)



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    [QUOTE=Midwest Mike;2122091]Two questions:

    (1) anyone see a downside to this except cost? Sounds like a really good solution I never thought of.

    (2) anybody know where this might be widely available at retail? The link looks like the firm only sells wholesale and a couple of minutes of googling didn't turn up too much in terms of amazon etc.

    Thanks!



    [QUOTE=zelph;2121574]Use pure cellulose toilet paper. Water easily dissolves it. Pee on it and it's gone.

    If it dissolves in water, how do you wipe in the rain? I know this has been addressed as a problem with regular tp, so can only imagine with cellulose tp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lesliedgray View Post
    This is the one I was referring to, that came from Walmart.. the handle tip used to be orange, but i can't see a name in it anywhere.. i obviously don't know chit from shinola, but i would have thought it to be sturdy enough


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    I wasn't clear. people break the Coughlans solid orange one regularly.

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    the black Fiskars with orange handle tip is very sturdy and digs well. it is glass-filled nylon, it can even be sharpened. $2-3 locally...
    lnstool1000005574_-00_fiskars-trowel-nyglass-reinforced-plastic-7978.jpg

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