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    Quote Originally Posted by lambsknoll View Post
    Totally! What have the Romans ever done for us?
    For starters they gave us toga parties!



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    Quote Originally Posted by lambsknoll View Post
    Totally! What have the Romans ever done for us?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcasm the elf View Post
    For starters they gave us toga parties!



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    ...or was it the Chinese that gave us the raimen numeral

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    Amicalola Falls State Park, where the approach trail starts, is run by a corporation. Several of Georgia's parks are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder View Post
    Amicalola Falls State Park, where the approach trail starts, is run by a corporation. Several of Georgia's parks are.
    Does that explain the new zipline venture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondmouse View Post
    there is nothing, short of national defense, that a private company can't do better/faster/cheaper than gov't. and even that is debatable...
    Evidence tends to demonstrate the opposite, there is little to no difference between government and private sector operations for things like this. The difference being, government is accountable to the public through FOI and various layers of elected/appointed committees and responsible departments. There is an old adage that one can have any two of better, faster, cheaper, but not all three, most instances of privatization illustrate this pretty well.

    Myself, I would prefer shuttering parks that States do not want to support (this is a political will issue overall) as opposed to selling them off. They can be reopened, they cannot be repurchased easily. The other avenue would be legislation limiting liability and allowing volunteer groups to keep parks open (or the trails accessible and open if nothing else). That would probably be the win/win solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler View Post
    The other avenue would be legislation limiting liability and allowing volunteer groups to keep parks open (or the trails accessible and open if nothing else). That would probably be the win/win solution.
    This is the AT model, no? Federal ownership and top-level management, but the bulk of the ongoing maintenance and infrastructure provided by volunteers, overseen by trail clubs. Whatever they're doing, they're mostly doing it right.

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    For me, it's simple. The gov't wants to cut budget on parks because other budgets are out of control and unbalanced. Stop voting for politicians who don't help and who are part of wasting the money we have already given through taxes to be able to maintain our beautiful parks.
    Federal Funding with the tax dollars we already paid seems to make more sense for states and all of us.
    Private companies do often operate better budgets than gov't. They have to as they don't have an endless supply of money, aka our tax dollars. Problem is, they are for profit. Meaning the cut costs AND make us pay more. That is pay for something we already have paid for with our taxes. Private parks make no sense to anyone besides greedy business people and corrupt politicians.
    Can you think of anyone that cares about the parks as much as the people on this forum that could do what it would take to run a private for profit budget for parks? A person that could keep it affordable and maintain its beauty? Do you think that "We the People" would get a tax cut for the less funds needed by gov't for parks that they would no longer fund?
    To me, it's just simple. Hold the government accountable to proper use of OUR money and OUR land.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rafe View Post
    This is the AT model, no? Federal ownership and top-level management, but the bulk of the ongoing maintenance and infrastructure provided by volunteers, overseen by trail clubs. Whatever they're doing, they're mostly doing it right.
    For the most part yes, though with State parks there are roadways, parking, and sanitary facilities that make it a little more complex. But overall very similar.

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