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    Default Stove Recommendations for Toaks 750 pot?

    Starting my thru hike on the 12th, Up until now i've used a trangia with an evernew cross stand.
    This works great when using a wider pot, but I switched to a narrow Toaks 750 pot for my thru hike. My boil time is now around 11 minutes, does anyone have any suggestions on stoves? The fancy feast and can stoves both take about 10 minutes, their flames are a little too wide.
    I've been looking at the Toaks siphon stove, Zelph's venom stove and evernew's titanium stove.
    Anyone who uses this pot, or similar narrow pots, what stove do you use?

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    This is a picture of my 550 toaks pot on a red bull stove. The boil with a aluminum foil wind screen is under 5 minutes filled to the brim if I remember correctly. The flame rolls over a bit though.



    If I can make the 750 I just ordered boil 3 cups with one fueling of this stove then I will keep using it. Might have to make another to hold a pinch more fuel. Or I've been saving up some soda cans to try a stove like the penny stove but with only 7 or 8 holes on the inside of the base of the soda can. Then use a pot stand.


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    How did you make that? it looks different than other red bull stoves I've seen. I'll try it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HikerJ View Post
    How did you make that? it looks different than other red bull stoves I've seen. I'll try it out.
    This is how I make them. https://youtu.be/EKy9w_hbg80
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    I use a Zelph Starlyte (modified) with lid @ 0.6oz. I can boil 2 cups in about 6m on a MSR Alpine Stowaway which is a good size pot. Much faster with smaller pots. The stove creates a nice concentrated flame right in the center.

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    The eCHS stove is much more powerful than the Starlyte and focuses the flame in the center of the pot even better. However you will need a pot stand and a wind screen and you will need to make a few stoves to get it right (tricky build).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd Man Out View Post
    The eCHS stove is much more powerful than the Starlyte and focuses the flame in the center of the pot even better. However you will need a pot stand and a wind screen and you will need to make a few stoves to get it right (tricky build).
    Is the Toaks siphon stove made in the same fashion as the eCHS? DIY stove makers wanna know :-)

    There's something about one piece stoves that attracts my attention :-) (Fancee feest, StarLyte, Venom Super Stove)
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelph View Post
    Is the Toaks siphon stove made in the same fashion as the eCHS? DIY stove makers wanna know :-)

    There's something about one piece stoves that attracts my attention :-) (Fancee feest, StarLyte, Venom Super Stove)
    I have not had my hands on one. It does seem to be built based on the same desigh. But the one on line test video I saw seemed to show inferior performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd Man Out View Post
    I have not had my hands on one. It does seem to be built based on the same desigh. But the one on line test video I saw seemed to show inferior performance.
    I agree, looks like a double wall with jets shooting up and inward and oh my! it's made of titanium.:-) Oh Gee!!! it requires a separate pot support Darn!!! but that the same as the eCHS ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelph View Post
    Is the Toaks siphon stove made in the same fashion as the eCHS? DIY stove makers wanna know :-)

    There's something about one piece stoves that attracts my attention :-) (Fancee feest, StarLyte, Venom Super Stove)
    I have a Toaks Siphon stove, and it is great. As for as I know it is pretty much identical in function to the eCHS (which I don't own), just more durable due to titanium construction. No complaints about efficiency, however I do prefer to use a wide-bottom pan even with this style of stove to capture as much of the heat as possible. I use it with a small titanium tea cup just fine too.

    The only complaint is that the pot stand that Toaks sells to go with the stove is half an inch too tall, which means loss of efficiency if you use it as it comes - for fastest boil times you'll want the pot to sit closer. This can easily be corrected with a pair of wire snippers, by placing a small rock underneath the stove to lift it up a bit, or by using something else as your pot stand (that's perhaps also wind resistant).

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    A capillary hoop stove sold on ebay by mfoutdoors. It works great on all narrow diameter pots (I use with a Foster's Can pot). Best of all, it costs a whooping $5.00!

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    As a quick tip...
    if you keep the handles apart they remain MUCH cooler than together.
    (you need to remember to spread them after you place the pot on the stove)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    As a quick tip...
    if you keep the handles apart they remain MUCH cooler than together.
    (you need to remember to spread them after you place the pot on the stove)
    What causes them to be hotter when kept together?

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    I resell the 750 ml Toaks pots. In my testing, they work fine with either of my DualFuel burners (regular or XL). I do not recommend a Bottlestove.com or similar pot-pressurized burner for a narrow pot like this. Most small format alcohol stoves should work well.
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    I use QiWiz's multi-fuel burner with my Toaks 650 & 750 pot (they have the same diameter). I use his burner in my Bushbox UL Pocket stove which puts the pot 1 inch from the burner (hits the sweet spot). The stand also allows the Toaks to seat very nicely.I'm using Esbit in this pic but I use the alcohol part of his burner all the time.

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    Current lightweight butane stove winner ; )

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    Well with the red bull stove and about 37 ml of fuel I boiled 3 cups of water in under 8 minutes. Stove burned for over 9. I'm waiting on some new windscreen material so once I get that I'll do a true test in the elements. The 550 on the red bull stove felt fine but this one feels a little tippy. Technically to sadly use 37ml of fuel I need to make my base a little taller. More input once I get some hard numbers


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    i cant seem to get a boil out of the fancy feast stove with 30ml of denatured alcohol and 3 cups of water. it burns for around 14 minutes though. i havent tried 37 ml but i feel like the red bull stove is a work horse for this pot at 9 minutes. i think im going to have to try and reconfigure my redbull set up by making the bottom section deeper and the top lower as 37 ml almost flows over the top. but im unsure if this is going to effect the heat pushed out by the stove.

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    A pot with a wider base is more efficient. With the Fancee Feest (Zelph's perimeter wick version) I get consistent boils of 3 cups of cold water with 30ml denatured alcohol (Kleen Strip) using an Open Country 3-cup hard-anodized aluminum pot. Consistent boil time of 9min to 9:30.

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