I never know what your saying.Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl
Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them.
Woo
"We might assume that if a man has an erection he must want sex. But imagine if the same were said about women..."
Go ahead and assume; I am the sterotypical male
I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but if you want to avoid potentially creepy situations you probably shouldn't take rides from strangers... regardless of where you are.
Smile, Smile, Smile.... Mile after Mile
That didn't come out right. Sitting in a out patient clinic.
I'm trying to say that the subject is worthy of _thoughtful_ discussion.
Miles to go before I sleep. R. Frost
Don't believe the "trust your gut" maxim. A really dangerous (and successful) predator won't set off any alarm bells. I don't think the guys in the truck were predators, just not attuned to what would make young women nervous, and I'm not jumping on the "Let's string'em up" bandwagon. Insensitivity doesn't make one an evil person.
"You're a nearsighted, bitter old fool."
I think that's true.
+1 agree........
If we go back to the original post: It's clearly stated that the gentlemen in question are not being thought of as "evil" even after-the-fact. The most they are being accused of is being insensitive in their actions to the feelings of the others. It was the hope of the OP that if anyone knew these guys, they could give them a "heads up" for future interactions, and the girls were confident enough in the character of the men to feel this would not be accepted badly. That says a lot for what they felt were the overall personalities behind this situation.
It's not easy to tell Dad, or Grandad, that they maybe didn't behave as well as they should have.
"Maybe life isn't about avoiding the bruises. Maybe it's about collecting the scars to prove we showed up for it."
This has been a good discussion.
"You're a nearsighted, bitter old fool."
I agree, and I've seen no "band wagons" coming through my town yet, just some discussion on a couple fellas that got it wrong this time...and a heads up.
I agree, and while my band wagon comment was modeled after yours, it was not meant to inflame nor imply.
As a woman and a mother, this quote is a hard one for me. I'm not sure we know how to do that anymore. I tell my kids ... if the hair stands up on your arms, back off. Not that I believe these guys were anything to worry about ... but as a woman that hikes solo, I sooooo worry I won't know when to "trust my gut.".
"Life is pure adventure, and the sooner we realize that, the quicker we will be
able to treat life as art." Maya Angelou
Did I miss it completely? What was the "tale" they were asked to tell? The response to that would guide my response to the whole situation.
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““Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees....” ― John Muir
Speaking of "miss it". Where is the first hand account of what happened? Seems the OP witnessed none of it.
There was a report of a female attempted abduction on Max Patch Rd on the Haywood county side around 1pm today's date. The situation is still fluid as a woman was either pushed into a gray Dodge Intrepid by two white males or was attempted to be pushed in the car.
Law enforcement units are enroute as I type this.
IF your "number of posts" exceed your "days as a member" your knowledge is suspect.
Yerby Ray
Newton, NC
Well lets hope that works out for the best.
I'm reminded of the book "Jaws" that I'll be listening to on audio book while on vacation at the beach shortly. In that book Scientist Matt Hooper played by Richard Dreyfus says something about Territoriality, and how shanks stay in an area where food is plentiful. Same goes for creeps seeking what they covet, until acted upon, ie. caught, or they leave for some other reason.
Yerbyray, you being a LEO, is this a true statement?
likahike would you dispute the validity of this report as hearsay? I get where your comin' from, I always like my info first hand as well...but in this case the OP of this thread may not have seen it happen from over the hill and around the corner...but she was there, an active participant...good enough for me on this one.
I will follow up with this tomorrow when I go back to work and see what the rest of the story is. We, my partner actually talked to the reporting party, took the call first hand and you can tell in someone's voice when something is legitimate and this sounded that way when I listened to the audio recording.
As for creeps and bad guys....They are creature's of opportunity and fish in the same pond that produces fish until they are forced away. From panhandlers to serial killers....they "work" an area that they are comfortable with until it is too hot for them. They either lay low or move on. Typically when they move on, they are busted because they are out of their comfort zone. What is scarey is when law enforcement doesn't see or realize the pattern and crimes continue. A good example of this is the Highway 16 Killer in British Columbia (forty years and I am still not satisfied with the conclusion of it)
Relating to backpacking...I would like to see a comprehensive "sharing/database" of criminal activities relevant to the AT by all law enforcement agencies so trends and issues will be noticed before something bad happens. Heck it would be nice to know which parking areas are considered safe and which are not.
IF your "number of posts" exceed your "days as a member" your knowledge is suspect.
Yerby Ray
Newton, NC
Thanks Yerbray...hope it works out, kinda surprised ATer's aren't victims of crimes more often given the remoteness and their general trusting nature.
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