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    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    my experience for no stove - unless you are going to walk more than 15 hours in a day, there is no time savings, you are just fiddling away the cooking time another way - and cooking time is often the most social activity at any camping/ stopping spot

    the no cook food is heavier and more expensive, by more than the savings of food/ fuel/ stove weight or fuel cost

    in the end for longer than overnight, I could find no advantage to no stove
    George welcome to WB - you are right... there isn't an advantage gram wise... Honest 10-k and myself have been around the block.. but he asked for the list... I just spent a 1/2 hour digging it back up from my hard drive library. I did not learn this a long time ago - but he asked for it. Sometimes we have to figure out the post or request and just do the right thing...hope that helps. You need a mix of no cook and cook to do the AT.


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    You can add to the list until the whole supermarket is on there.
    Much of it isnt as calorie-dense as a long distance hiker needs.

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    Speaking of stoveless... when I hauled a stove I only used esbit.

    Did you know... Amazon has an "Esbit Store".

    http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=sr_1_1_a...537&sr=8-1-acs

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    I went totally dehydrated and cooked my first time on the AT. I then went over to the PCT and the winds initially drove me nuts. Plus everything was just so dry. I started going long stretches without my stove and found things were much simpler, and I did not have to worry about water at the end of every day (a bigger issue on the PCT/CDT). By the time I was back on the AT this year for a long section, I was completely stove less. I don't miss cooking, the hot foods, or the lower calories in cooked meals. I always take a working lighter or matches with me though, for emergency purposes. I doubt I will go back to cooking, but I never say never.

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    Everyone does their own thing, but for me, never had the need of carrying heavy volume cookers. The little stove with fuel pills works for me. I'm not going to do any big time cooking, just heat my water for hot food. Light, takes no space and works well.

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    Thanks 10K for the esbit store. Found my newest update cooker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mags View Post
    I suspect 10k will be up already, on the trail hiking and enjoying the wonderful early morning light. He won't be around to see you eat your eggs.

    actually, it will still be dark for at least an hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1azarus View Post
    actually, it will still be dark for at least an hour.
    You know what I like best about hiking before dawn? The sunrises.

    I have seen some incredible sunrises I would have surely missed if I had been in my tent asleep. Or even awake, sitting around cooking..

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    When I leave for my hike in April I'm just going to take an Esbit stove since I don't cook hot food every day on the trail. Thanks for the meal ideas!

    The hot food mentality reminded me of a past experience with a Vietnamese exchange student. His host family packed sandwiches each day for his lunch at our work placement. He could not fathom the idea of eating cold/warm food for lunch so he would heat up the sandwich in the microwave. It was soggy but it suited his temperature needs!
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    The guys I met ate little besides snickers bars, and were asking everyone what the hours were for the next Pizza Hut AYCE buffet.
    It's the "feast and famine" approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10-K View Post
    You know what I like best about hiking before dawn? The sunrises.

    I have seen some incredible sunrises I would have surely missed if I had been in my tent asleep. Or even awake, sitting around cooking..
    On the PCT, you'll also enjoy cooler Mojave Desert temps in the pre dawn hiking hrs. That can be a very effective hiking strategy in hot temps. Maybe, take a couple hrs off in the early afternoon and then pick it back up and hike until well after sunset. That's what I did when the day time highs were 95*+. Did quite va bit of PCT night hiking. Just watch where you step, stay on route, and have a decent night hiking headlamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuddyWaters View Post
    You can add to the list until the whole supermarket is on there.
    Much of it isnt as calorie-dense as a long distance hiker needs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sara View Post
    When I leave for my hike in April I'm just going to take an Esbit stove since I don't cook hot food every day on the trail. Thanks for the meal ideas!

    Your welcome... I think... Esbit is awful though the sardine smell gets into the food.

    The hot food mentality reminded me of a past experience with a Vietnamese exchange student. His host family packed sandwiches each day for his lunch at our work placement. He could not fathom the idea of eating cold/warm food for lunch so he would heat up the sandwich in the microwave. It was soggy but it suited his temperature needs!
    Interesting. Esbit is not the answer.
    Dogs are excellent judges of character, this fact goes a long way toward explaining why some people don't like being around them.

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    I've hiked stoveless on the LT and used mostly salami meats and tuna packets. It was okay but I now use a stove all the time.

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    Twinkies....lots of Twinkies

    Seriously, you can eat most of the same stuff but it will not be warm

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