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    Not your fault. Could have been a good discussion.

    Not your fault. Could have been a good discussion.
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    What a dumpster fire... Can we just close...

    What a dumpster fire...

    Can we just close this down?
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    Agreed. Just a bizarre attempt at changing the...

    Agreed. Just a bizarre attempt at changing the subject.
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    Really? "None of these groups do anything"? ...

    Really? "None of these groups do anything"?

    What madness is that??
  5. Thread: The Dungeon

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    At lake of the clouds? It appeared to still be...

    At lake of the clouds?

    It appeared to still be in use when I passed through there last March, but we couldn't get a good look since there was probably a foot of ice at the base of the door keeping...
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    That does sound like a strong argument for full...

    That does sound like a strong argument for full zip to me. Definitely the route I'd go under the circumstances.

    For what it's worth... the last pair of Precips I bought has an elastic waistband...
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    I'm surprised that there's that much difference...

    I'm surprised that there's that much difference in weight. Full zip is a godsend when dealing with boots that are a pain to take on and off (mountaineering boots or heavy hiking boots, for example)....
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    What does how much each group pays have to do...

    What does how much each group pays have to do with this thread?
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    I'm really struggling to see how this is related...

    I'm really struggling to see how this is related to the topic.
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    But all of that boils down to hikers making...

    But all of that boils down to hikers making individual choices that don't create risk to others (they can elect where to go and what to wear). The legal responsibility should be on the hunters, not...
  11. Definitely give John at OT a call re a shuttle. ...

    Definitely give John at OT a call re a shuttle. Or post here for that matter... Plenty of us live in the area and are potentially available.
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    Hunters need to be aware of their targets and...

    Hunters need to be aware of their targets and their surroundings. There is no need whatsoever to ban hikers from hunting areas.
  13. Ask at Outdoor Trails. There is a very large and...

    Ask at Outdoor Trails. There is a very large and underutilized lot there and they may be fine with you parking in it.
  14. Thread: McAfee Knob

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    No, it's really not a horrible muddy mess. At...

    No, it's really not a horrible muddy mess. At all. That was an issue at one point further north as you get close to Daleville. But that's not really true at all near 311.
  15. Thread: McAfee Knob

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    Campbell is on the far side of McAfee's Knob from...

    Campbell is on the far side of McAfee's Knob from 311, so it's usually slightly less crowded than Catawba shelter. I'd consider that option strongly.
  16. If you want to wander down a bizarre rabbit...

    If you want to wander down a bizarre rabbit trail, look up 'breatharian'.
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    There's nothing wrong with that as a ground...

    There's nothing wrong with that as a ground cloth, but it's a one pound item. More appropriate for car camping than backpacking.
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    You're referring to polycro, aka window cling...

    You're referring to polycro, aka window cling film.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AXON8C/
  19. Very good point.

    Very good point.
  20. Even without directly being hit by rain, down can...

    Even without directly being hit by rain, down can absorb humidity from the ambient air. I experienced this last year in New Hampshire with a rainstorm that lasted several hours in March. Despite...
  21. $500 on a down quilt can be a great investment -...

    $500 on a down quilt can be a great investment - but that sounds like a winter quilt based on price. If you're looking for something to use in rainy conditions, it's (probably) not the best bet.
  22. Consider the temperature you're dealing with. If...

    Consider the temperature you're dealing with. If it's comfortably above freezing, there's little enough insulation involved that you don't gain significantly from down in the first place. If you're...
  23. Agreed on all points. I just didn't know it was...

    Agreed on all points. I just didn't know it was even a valid page to order from.
  24. And? Even if you don't save weight, it does...

    And?

    Even if you don't save weight, it does reduce things you carry and simplifies a trip. To some, that's appealing.
    I don't generally cold soak ahead of time, but I'll set things up when...
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    I read it as Crossup felt like adding 6 ounces...

    I read it as Crossup felt like adding 6 ounces for a footprint was a good trade.
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