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    Must be an optical illusion... they are all in...

    Must be an optical illusion... they are all in sync :banana
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    And I'm sure you would have seen more if the...

    And I'm sure you would have seen more if the boards didn't have a limit of 30 "images" in a message.
  3. What are your plans for gear? (child's) So...

    What are your plans for gear? (child's)

    So exactly WHEN do you plan to go? (Effect gear/clothing needed)

    "Spring" has a wide range of time and temperatures. I know I've specifically taken...
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    Not much new here beyond what's already been...

    Not much new here beyond what's already been discussed... other than perhaps the detail that a DNA sample from a cougar spotted in TN confirmed it to be a western cougar, perhaps from the Dakotas.
  5. Another nice campsite is #60 in the Deep Creek...

    Another nice campsite is #60 in the Deep Creek area. It's about a 3 mile hike from the camp ground, nice large camping area beside the creek. If the mileage isn't to your liking, you can go deeper...
  6. When I started taking my kids on backpacking...

    When I started taking my kids on backpacking trips, I always required that they at lest carry their sleep system and cloths. But guidelines state a pack shouldn't weight more than 20% of your body...
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    It crowds the trail but isn't impossible to...

    It crowds the trail but isn't impossible to avoid... but you have to constantly be vigilant. After looking at it for a day, this trail finally taught my son how to recognize poison ivy.

    But now...
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    The one time I've been asked to show my permit...

    The one time I've been asked to show my permit while in the back country, I too was on Forney Creek... except I was on the lower section (don't know if it was Ranger Nick or not).

    I've also once...
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    What time of year are you planning? Beard Cane...

    What time of year are you planning?

    Beard Cane Trail is covered with poison ivy from the moment it drops into the valley from the Hatcher Mountain Trail intersection to beyond CS#3.

    I recall...
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    Great Smokey Mountains GSMNP has enough trails...

    Great Smokey Mountains
    GSMNP has enough trails that there can be many options for 3 night loops.

    But their Compendium of Rules and Regulations limit party sizes to 8. There is an exception for...
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    Your link works... but the introduction to this...

    Your link works... but the introduction to this DIY Ursack end with the words "Learn the instructions on the next page" but there is no obvious "Next Page".
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    NOT LEGAL in many places through out the country,...

    NOT LEGAL in many places through out the country, and I've heard stories of mice chewing thru tents to get at food smells inside.

    In GSMNP, every back country campsite has bear cables (which you...
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    You need to carry enough to get you to the next...

    You need to carry enough to get you to the next water source...
    But something else to consider... Time. If you carry a minimum amount of water, you're constantly stopping to filter water.
    What I...
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    I use what some call a "mouse mobile"... ...

    I use what some call a "mouse mobile"... Basically hang the food under an funnel (wide side to the ground).

    Take something like a 1 gallon juice bottle. Cut the top off at the point the top...
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    IF you need a synthetic fill bag, one exception...

    IF you need a synthetic fill bag, one exception to the rule of thumb (on stuff size) is the Mountain Hardware Ultra Lamina and Hyper Lamina series.
    {Unfortunately, it looks like Mountain Hardware is...
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    Those exact coordinates are a little off the...

    Those exact coordinates are a little off the trail down a hill.
    But I might see a little something at 35.999697,-82.480260 (can't say for sure).
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    I tried searching Google Earth a little south of...

    I tried searching Google Earth a little south of the gap. I'm not sure what I see, but I seem to see something that doesn't look like a tree (but could be an odd shadow from trees):
    36.007166,...
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    I've never been there myself, so I don't know...

    I've never been there myself, so I don't know where this is.
    But looking at Google Earth...

    I find a place called Whistling Gap at 36.018443, -82.437636 along the AT.

    A little more than 1/2...
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    Hanging food on the bear cables in GSMNP isn't...

    Hanging food on the bear cables in GSMNP isn't going protect your food from the mice... They climb the bear cables.
  20. The "NOC" has a retail outlet in Gatlinburg at...

    The "NOC" has a retail outlet in Gatlinburg at the entrance to the National Park:
    https://noc.com/retail-locations/noc-gatlinburg
  21. True, the use of bear canisters alone isn't going...

    True, the use of bear canisters alone isn't going to totally make bear/people encounters go away. As you say, a step in the right direction, but not the universal solution.
  22. While that might work where people are sparsely...

    While that might work where people are sparsely camping... that is VERY bad advice for areas where people repeatedly camp... specifically GSMNP where everyone is required to camp at limited camping...
  23. The idea behind bear canisters is to retrain the...

    The idea behind bear canisters is to retrain the bears people (and their canisters) are not a source of food.

    They are supposed to find the canisters, try getting into it for a while, and...
  24. Not all 20 mile trips are the same. I once...

    Not all 20 mile trips are the same. I once shuttled from Porter Creek Trail Head. It's located only 4 miles from 321, but the shuttle driver has to account for the fact that this is a 15mph bumpy...
  25. Keep in mind that your 14 mile shuttle is...

    Keep in mind that your 14 mile shuttle is actually a 28 mile drive for the shuttle driver and requires about an hour round-trip (excluding the time they spend between "home base" and Gatlinburg).
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