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    Like with any endeavor I suppose---perfect...

    Like with any endeavor I suppose---perfect organization in backpacking comes with experience. It's one of the main keys to "successful" backpacking.
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    A short 3 day trip means my food load is next to...

    A short 3 day trip means my food load is next to nothing and I probably won't even bring my stove and fuel. A 3 day trip generally means 2 cooked dinners---maybe hot breakfasts---and the rest...
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    Your post sort of ties into whether we bring...

    Your post sort of ties into whether we bring stuff sacks or not. Personally, there's a big difference with a 3 day trip versus a 21 day trip---since personally I don't do resupplies which severely...
  4. All my AT backpacking trips (including two treks...

    All my AT backpacking trips (including two treks thru Shenandoah NP)---thru Hot Springs, Mt Rogers, Etc---I shopped locally for food along the way. In Shenandoah I hitched to Luray for food---and...
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    Why don't you consider your food bag a stuff...

    Why don't you consider your food bag a stuff sack? Isn't food stuffed into it?

    This could possibly be garlic08's food sack---
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    Here's my current food load for an 18 day trip in...

    Here's my current food load for an 18 day trip in October.
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    Right red bag is main food bag and fits inside pack on top of sleeping bag in its stuff sack.

    Middle two bags are Seek Outside...
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    I find these comments remarkable as I'm trying to...

    I find these comments remarkable as I'm trying to imagine all my food just scattered loosely in my pack without putting any of it in a stuff sack.
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    You could park in Betty Gap and tool down Connie...

    You could park in Betty Gap and tool down Connie and camp at one of many nice CSs---except the big one at Chestnut Lead trail jct which usually sees alot of people. Although with Hurricane Delta...
  9. All my backpacking trips stick close to home and...

    All my backpacking trips stick close to home and involve short trails. On my most recent 27 day backpacking trip I became a "thurhiker" going from my drop off point on Hooper Bald to Green Cove...
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    On my Day 13 of the trip is when Hurricane Laura...

    On my Day 13 of the trip is when Hurricane Laura hit with her second of three Deluge Rain Cycles and by far the worst of the three. I estimated I got 10 inches in three hours---and was camping right...
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    I used to park at the NRA and left my car there...

    I used to park at the NRA and left my car there for 20+ days. I went inside and got a little form to fill out and place in my car's window. Nice thing about it is that they gate the lot all night...
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    As I age out of the backpacking life I'll need...

    As I age out of the backpacking life I'll need Patman to carry my food and fuel and to lead me on notorious bushwacks and even to change my diaper on occasion.
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    Totally agree. Easy rolling access (there's a...

    Totally agree. Easy rolling access (there's a road nearby) is the prime reason so many backcountry places get trashed. See pic below of adjacent road access---
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    I'm of a different mindset...
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    It's not far in distance from Hobo Camp on...

    It's not far in distance from Hobo Camp on Sycamore Creek to Laurel Top/Bird Trail 64---it's just STEEP AS HELL.
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    Total weight for food and white gas stove fuel...

    Total weight for food and white gas stove fuel was around 65 lbs---and then throw in 7 book rolls---
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    Here's are a couple of typical book rolls---70 pages each printed on both sides---of...
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    Will Skelton thinks there used to be an old trail...

    Will Skelton thinks there used to be an old trail up Sycamore Creek to merge with the Snowbird trail near Hogjaw Gap and down to Mitchell Lick---a way to connect the high reaches of Sycamore Creek to...
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    To these points--- Yes, I explored the abandoned...

    To these points---
    Yes, I explored the abandoned Sassafras trail up beyond that primo CS and even camped on it higher up. It follows an obvious logging cut for several hundred feet and then just...
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    Taking your points one by one--- 415 reaches...

    Taking your points one by one---
    415 reaches Deep Gap on the map and turns right to follow Sassafras Ridge up to Wildcat Knob etc but it skirts private land at this point and there's reason the FS...
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    Nope, and it was delicious.

    Nope, and it was delicious.
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    My go-to map is this--- 46787 But for better...

    My go-to map is this---
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    But for better overview with logging roads and numbers I use Nat G map 781.



    I told Little Mitten 20 years ago that I'm already in a sleep-over relationship with...
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    I had several 7 mile days and one 8 mile day. I...

    I had several 7 mile days and one 8 mile day. I had 4 zero in-tent days for storms when I didn't move but all the rest of the time I was packing up every morning and shoving off to points elsewhere.
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    https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2020-Trips-202...

    https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2020-Trips-202-/My-Longest-Trip-27-Days-wo-Resupply/i-K3rpFgs/0/4bdbc790/XL/Trip%20206%20%28389%29-XL.jpg
    Little Mitten finally arrives on Day 26 and I set up her...
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    https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2020-Trips-202...

    https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2020-Trips-202-/My-Longest-Trip-27-Days-wo-Resupply/i-WDs76ZB/0/da73b016/XL/Trip%20206%20%28342%29-XL.jpg
    Once I pass over Sugar Mt I get off the BMT and head...
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    https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2020-Trips-202...

    https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2020-Trips-202-/My-Longest-Trip-27-Days-wo-Resupply/i-PvSwkp9/0/aa206720/XL/Trip%20206%20%28251%29-XL.jpg
    King's Meadow is a tough Nut Hump but it punches me out...
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    https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2020-Trips-202...

    https://photos.smugmug.com/Backpack-2020-Trips-202-/My-Longest-Trip-27-Days-wo-Resupply/i-pNrC6V8/0/9a8c8d51/XL/Trip%20206%20%28156%29-XL.jpg
    After a tough night of rain Patman gets out of his...
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