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    Just like several others, I too use an alcohol stove - for southern winter hiking. Winter hiking in the North (Maine, NH, VT) an alcohol stove is a bad idea. It also depending on the design of your stove of course - different alcohol stoves boil water faster than others.

    If you go with white gas, I strongly suggest testing your stove out several times first prior to going. I don't know how many times I've seen a "fire ball" of flames go up from hikers not knowing how to properly use their stove. The suction cup - inside the pump may require a little care prior to leaving - they tend to dry out fairly quickly.

    Which one is better alcohol or white gas? Well that really depends on you. If your only cooking 1 meal a day and not using your stove for hot drinks around camp - spend more time hiking than camping then alcohol might be the better choice because of its lighter weight. If you are planning on spending more time camping, like having hot drinks along with your dinner than gas might be a better choice.

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    Here is a post I have on my blog about what I carry, along with a link to my geargrams list. Not for everyone, but what works for me and I sleep very cold! http://demeters-dish.blogspot.com/20...-for-very.html
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    I haven't mentioned this in forum, before, but zelph modified his Super Stove for white gas.

    I have one: reliable, no mechanical parts, small and lightweight.

    I have had it for years: works great.

    Uses very little white gas. Hot.

    It will burn kerosene but kerosene is stinky.

    White gas is stinky, if it gets on your gear.
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    Demeter
    , http://demeters-dish.blogspot.com/20...-very.html?m=1

    The Blogspot doesn't work for iPod iOS.

    I see the start of the article... That's it.

    I click it and I get only orange wherls turning, then, right back to the starting link.

    Every time. Every Blogspot link.

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    Also, remember to completely change out of the clothes you hiked in, right down to your skivvies. A clean, 100% dry set of clothes helps keep you warm!!!

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    So my test run was walk in camping with my gear at 30 degree low temp: Kelty Women's 20 degree dridown bag (rated for 28 degrees comfort haha) mummy bag, Exped Symat UL 7. Wearing: synthetic long underwear top and bottom, long sleeve lightweight hiking shirt, midweight fleece jacket, fleece pants, wool hat, fleece gloves, silk liner socks, wool socks.

    So I'm thinking perhaps I need a warmer sleeping bag in addition to a more insulated pad? Would adding a sleeping bag liner be helpful or so I just look or a warmer bag?

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    Sorry, don't mind this post, this is just a test. Just trying to get my signature to work. Carry on. lol :P .....
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    Yay! It worked! Again, sorry everyone! lol.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airgirl View Post
    So my test run was walk in camping with my gear at 30 degree low temp: Kelty Women's 20 degree dridown bag (rated for 28 degrees comfort haha) mummy bag, Exped Symat UL 7. Wearing: synthetic long underwear top and bottom, long sleeve lightweight hiking shirt, midweight fleece jacket, fleece pants, wool hat, fleece gloves, silk liner socks, wool socks.

    So I'm thinking perhaps I need a warmer sleeping bag in addition to a more insulated pad? Would adding a sleeping bag liner be helpful or so I just look or a warmer bag?
    You were not warm? What Kelty model sleeping bag?

    I am trying to find out down fill? features? draft collar?
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    Before you spend a lot of money on another sleeping bag, try adding a closed cell foam pad under the Exped mat.

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    Does a small tarp set up vertical as a wind break make enough sense to afford the extra wt. ? Keeping a cold wind out of your tent or hammock could mean a lot in comfort.

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    Winter Backpacking Gear list
    o Granite Gear Crown 60
    o Western Mountaineering Versalite 10
    o Tarptent Moment DW
    o Thermarest Neo-air All Season
    o MSR Pocketrocket
    o Snow Peak 900ml Titanium Pot
    o Snow Peak Titanium Spork
    o MSR Fuel Canister
    o Steripen Adventure Pen
    o Sawyer Squeeze
    o Zippo Handwarmer/Filler
    o 1oz Dropper bottle w/ fuel
    o Mora Light my Fire Knife
    o Dyneema Ironwire
    o Tyvek Sheet
    o Candle
    o REI Thermometer
    o Toothbrush
    o Toothpaste
    o Floss
    o Black Diamond Spot
    o 3-Hairties
    o Compass
    o Whistle
    o Katoohla Microspikes
    o Duct Tape
    o 3-Safety Pins
    o 2-CR123 Batteries
    o 3-Energizer Lithium AAA
    o Buckle
    o Pad Patch Kit
    o Shammy
    o Toilet Paper
    o Black Diamond Trekking Poles w/ baskets
    o Carabiner
    o Pack Cover
    o Bubble Wrap Envelope
    o Baby Wipes
    o Ziploc Bowl
    o Cellphone
    o Cash
    o Credit Card
    o Insurance Card
    o Map
    o Guidebook
    o Sunglasses


    Medkit
    o Blistex
    o 3m Coban Wrap
    o Tweezers
    o Gauze
    o 3-Johnson&Johnson Non-Stick Trauma Pads
    o 6- Bandaids
    o 2-Anti-biotic Packs
    o 1-First Aid Cream Pack
    o 3-Alcohol Prep Pads
    o 2-Benadryl
    o 2-Lopermide Hydrochloride
    o 2-Pepto Bismol Tablets
    o 2-Dayquil Packs
    o 2-Nyquil Packs
    o Aleve
    o Ibuprofen
    Winter Clothing
    o Under Armour T-Shirt
    o Adidas Climalite Shorts
    o Smartwool NTS Midweight Baselayer
    o Marmot Quasar Down Jacket
    o Marmot ROM Jacket
    o Marmot Scree Pants
    o Marmot Precip Jacket
    o Marmot Connect Active Gloves
    o Marmot Dri-Clime Gloves
    o Marmot Randonee Gloves
    o Columbia Ski-Pants
    o Columbia Titanium Fleece
    o Under Armour Compression Shorts
    o Backcountry Buff
    o Beanie
    o Baffin Basecamp Booties
    o Outdoor Research Verglas Gaiters
    o 3-Darn Tough Lightweight Socks
    Patagonia Capilene 1 Baselayer Top

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    some of this i only bring when it gets cold like 0-15 degrees, but i start with this list and take away what i wont need based on weather conditons, length of hike, and location

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIhikers View Post
    Before you spend a lot of money on another sleeping bag, try adding a closed cell foam pad under the Exped mat.
    Makes a Big Difference!

    If that isnt enough try a tent that has less ventilation. If that still isn't enough try the Marmot Never summer down bags. (best budget Down 0 bags IMHO)
    "you cant grow old if you never grow up" ~TUswm

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